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Films => The Happening => Topic started by: Mr_Glass.1 on October 20, 2007, 04:18:58 PM

Title: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on October 20, 2007, 04:18:58 PM
I just thought it would be intersting to find out what people thought, wether The Happening would be a hit-box office or academy awards, or will it be a bust.  I personally think it will be great, commercially I also think it will do well.  I think Shyamalan comes back with this film, he going to recoup his old audinces that were just in it for the thrill and he will be popular again, at least for a short time. 
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Unbroken on October 21, 2007, 04:55:23 PM
Agreed.


- It's alright to be afraid, David. Because this part won't be anything like a comic book. Real life doesn't fit into little boxes that were drawn for it. -
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Rulm on October 21, 2007, 08:36:03 PM
I hope Shyamalan comes back with this film; he really deserves it. His first 3 were my favorites...Unfortunately, his last two--especially, Lady In The Water, lacked that special something that the first 3 had. I hope he brings the magic back with The Happening.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: afi_village on October 22, 2007, 07:05:49 AM
depends on what the trailers are like...i'm not saying anything till we see how it's going to be marketed.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: swingaway on October 22, 2007, 05:38:08 PM
I think even his "dissapointments" are a success - He has such a high standard to meet to live up to Sixth Sense and Signs.  Can one really watch The Village without holding it up to Sixth?  Not easily.  The Village and Lady in the Water did not grab me as much the 1st time, but his movies grow on me and the more I watch them the more I love them.  I am looking forward to it!!
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Unbroken on October 23, 2007, 01:52:57 PM
Quote afi_village: "depends on what the trailers are like..."

That's very true, The Village and Lady in the Water were both marketed incorrectly which I believe led to much audience dissapointment. The trailers for Lady in the Water had a misleading ghostly feel to them, and everyone watching The Village was expecting to see people get mauled by monsters. Instead they got a drama/romance with meaningful dialogue, great music, a look at human nature, and kissing.

The Happening, however, is going to be very intense and I doubt the guys working on the trailers and promotion will be able to overdo it. This time Night is delivering what audience and critics have been whining for all along.


- It's alright to be afraid, David. Because this part won't be anything like a comic book. Real life doesn't fit into little boxes that were drawn for it. -
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: leftfield on October 26, 2007, 08:06:45 PM
depends on what the trailers are like...i'm not saying anything till we see how it's going to be marketed.

I feel the same way. If they don't promote it just right, I'll be bummed.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on October 29, 2007, 08:43:19 AM
I don't get why people say he is not a succesful director- just look at what his movies have made, first of all he is hugely popular overseas always brings in atleast 100 million.  Then in the united states he still manage to recoup the costs of the movie, and then bring in at least another 20-30 million, and that's his worst movies.  How come people never complain about the other movies that don't even recoup what they cost to make.  People just don't like Shyamalan because he makes them think-they just want a feel-good movie, one where they can watch lots of things blowing up, or one where the couple falls in love at the end.  O well, I've heard true art is not appreciated, except by those loyal fans on this board. 
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: werebearxxx on January 16, 2008, 02:58:38 AM
  People just don't like Shyamalan because he makes them think-they just want a feel-good movie, one where they can watch lots of things blowing up, or one where the couple falls in love at the end.  O well, I've heard true art is not appreciated, except by those loyal fans on this board. 

WELL SAID MR. GLASS.

I LIVE IN OHIO. OK. IM AMERICAN.
AMERICAN AUDIENCES ARE SIMPLE MINDED CHIMPS.


Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 16, 2008, 10:03:13 AM
  People just don't like Shyamalan because he makes them think-they just want a feel-good movie, one where they can watch lots of things blowing up, or one where the couple falls in love at the end.  O well, I've heard true art is not appreciated, except by those loyal fans on this board. 

WELL SAID MR. GLASS.

I LIVE IN OHIO. OK. IM AMERICAN.
AMERICAN AUDIENCES ARE SIMPLE MINDED CHIMPS.



For the most part yes, but not always.  What's the reaction to Shyamalan out in Ohio.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Rohan on January 16, 2008, 10:12:08 PM
M.Night comes with originality. In the words of the NEW tenant in LADY IN THE WATER the critic guy who said "THERE IS NO ORIGINALITY LEFT". Writers are on strike, because they want to get what they deserve. Studios are keep making sequels. Transformers one, no doubt awesome movie now they are coming with sequel.

M.Night comes with an original idea each time. He never failed his movies. It's the money we are talking when it comes to a failure. In fact, its the failure when a BS movie comes out and people loves it, cause it has nudity.

M.Night's THE HAPPENING is original. It will be successful no doubt.

Rohan
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: werebearxxx on January 16, 2008, 11:19:58 PM
ohio isnt too bad. all my friends have and enjoy all of night's movies.
but my girlfriends family and a few people i know hate his movies after "signs".....

people would rather see gross torture, sex filled, generic movies that something that has depth to it, something with heart.
it sad really.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 17, 2008, 10:04:03 AM
Yea, Rohan, even his movies money wise have always made plenty, except for Lady In The Water which made enough to pay for the costs.  I like that note about the critic in Lady In The Water, I had forgotten about that.  Shyamalan does come out with original storylines with each of his movies, it could hardly be said better about BS movies also.  For the most part Americans are just interested in torture, sex, and generic movies, which is sad, and dissapointing, both that there are few new stories out there, and that we have such an interest in that type of film.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on January 17, 2008, 11:56:34 AM
America needs to grow up!  Dont get me wrong, Michael Bay (action) is one of my favorite directors!  I love his work ethic, enthusiasm, so many camera angles, the color style!  But transformers sucked booty!  Saw in the theater and never did rent it. 

But very true, about the sex, gore, language etc. in movies these days.  If it doesnt have that, it will never win an acadamy award!  It wont even ever be considered!  Sorry, except for The Sixth Sense, but that was an exception.  If its not artsy nor explicit, the judges dont care.  Its really hard to ask this, but do you think Night will ever win another A award again?  I hate to ask but...

I am into film, love to write my own stuff, etc. etc.  Everyone I know writes horror features or shorts!  WHAT THE HECK!?  Thats the only thing people know how to do!?!  GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK!  Its so "easy", they want to do something easy and cheap to say they made a movie.  Well WHOOP DIE DOO!  I could write a horror movie in about 2 seconds.  People need to get an actual brain.  Anyway, back to Shyamalan... ;D
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 17, 2008, 12:10:33 PM
I am sure there can be a debate on whether or not Lady in the Water recovered it's costs.

If you look at the U.S. market alone, I think it reflects poorly on the film, and I think international numbers don't help anything.

The estimated production budget is around $68 million. The marketing budget for the U.S. market has been estimated in neighborhood of $60-75 million. That leaves us with a conservative budget total of $130 million. It could also be debated on whether or not manufacturing and distribution costs are included in any of those numbers. After the several weeks of release that Lady endured, the U.S. box-office total was $42.3 million. DVD rental gross for the film is in the $30-50 million dollar range, and there are no official numbers on DVD sales but I imagine they are similar to the rental figures.

Before adding those numbers together, you have to consider how much of the box-office and rental gross does that studio walk away with? So given a liberal estimate, revenue for Lady in the Water in the U.S. market could be somewhere in the vicinity of $100 million. If you assume WB received tax credits for filming in PA, which they probably did, that number is probably something like $14 million. That still leaves Lady in the Water shy $16 million dollars.

I'd love for someone to point out any holes in my argument, but let's not get into a lengthy discussion about Lady in the Water in The Happening forum.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Rohan on January 17, 2008, 11:11:24 PM
I am sure there can be a debate on whether or not Lady in the Water recovered it's costs.

If you look at the U.S. market alone, I think it reflects poorly on the film, and I think international numbers don't help anything.

The estimated production budget is around $68 million. The marketing budget for the U.S. market has been estimated in neighborhood of $60-75 million. That leaves us with a conservative budget total of $130 million. It could also be debated on whether or not manufacturing and distribution costs are included in any of those numbers. After the several weeks of release that Lady endured, the U.S. box-office total was $42.3 million. DVD rental gross for the film is in the $30-50 million dollar range, and there are no official numbers on DVD sales but I imagine they are similar to the rental figures.

Before adding those numbers together, you have to consider how much of the box-office and rental gross does that studio walk away with? So given a liberal estimate, revenue for Lady in the Water in the U.S. market could be somewhere in the vicinity of $100 million. If you assume WB received tax credits for filming in PA, which they probably did, that number is probably something like $14 million. That still leaves Lady in the Water shy $16 million dollars.

I'd love for someone to point out any holes in my argument, but let's not get into a lengthy discussion about Lady in the Water in The Happening forum.

Dr.Malcom Crowe,

Wow! where did you get those numbers from?  :) I see sometimes how much a movie made and in the meantime I am more into what kind of effort did the makers,actors,writer put in a movie. M.Night shyamalan's LADY IN THE WATER is a failure financially in the words of critics,magazines,media and studios. But let's think for a minute about the originality of the concept behind the motion picture. M.Night is a story teller, not only a film maker. How many film makers in Hollywood makes stupid movies that doesn't make sense at all. ELI ROTH's HOSTEL, I have never seen it, reading the synopsis I was like "WAKE UP" what a waste of time. There are so many ideas and stories that needs to be written and shown to the world.

See, I am a script writer myself. I am writing for  first one at the moment. When my movie comes out, I will not look a the budget, I will look at the originality. What I can learn from the movie as a writer,actor I need to learn and in the meantime what can I learn from the movie that can impact my life.

Lady In The Water shows that MEN never listens means never cares. We are all connected and our only goal is to respect,protect,love each other. The apartment in the movie is a GLOBE with different people from different countries, no matter where we came from or who we are, we are from this world, from one appartment. Everybody's apt complex's water goes off sometimes,  everyone in the world has a issue somtimes. That's the meaning of the film.

I don't care how much it made. I care what I learn from the movie. No mistakes at all.

Rohan
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 17, 2008, 11:20:44 PM
We've discussed the real and true significance of Lady in the Water a million times over. I was talking numbers in response to Mr Glass' comment about Night's movies always recouping their costs.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Rohan on January 18, 2008, 09:15:39 PM
We've discussed the real and true significance of Lady in the Water a million times over. I was talking numbers in response to Mr Glass' comment about Night's movies always recouping their costs.

Hi Malcom, yeah I know you were just replying to Mr.Glass. I was just throwing my idea.. :-)

Rohan
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 19, 2008, 11:42:03 AM
Both Rohan and Dr Malcom Crowe, you are right.  Thanks for the figures, they helped a lot.  Yea, I like to learn lessons from the movies that I watch also.  I liked your post Rohan.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Rohan on January 20, 2008, 03:54:20 PM
Both Rohan and Dr Malcom Crowe, you are right.  Thanks for the figures, they helped a lot.  Yea, I like to learn lessons from the movies that I watch also.  I liked your post Rohan.

Thanks Mr.Glass
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 21, 2008, 09:58:53 AM
No problem Rohan.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 24, 2008, 08:52:24 PM
Does anyone else here have a HSX account?

The current prediction is $98 million dollars gross for the first 4 weeks of release.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 25, 2008, 06:32:59 PM
What's an HSX account, and prediction for what.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 25, 2008, 07:09:12 PM
HSX is a virtual entertainment stock market.

You can buy fake shares in a movie or actor/director. The value of the stock is based off how well investors think it will perform in 4 weeks at the U.S. Box Office.

Currently the stock for The Happening is worth $98 million dollars. If the movie only does say $50 million dollars at the box office in 4 weeks, investors will lose roughly half of all of the virtual money that had invested in that stock.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on January 26, 2008, 10:20:20 AM
Thats sweet what is the name of the website?
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 26, 2008, 12:01:24 PM
HSX.com

The HSX stands for Hollywood Stock Exchange.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Rohan on January 26, 2008, 03:41:02 PM
But I don't think The Happening will make "50" in four weeks. I think it will make more than that by the fourth week. Mark my word...

Rohan
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 27, 2008, 03:30:21 PM
Dude, that is sweet, I will have to check that out.  Thanks for the information Dr Malcom Crowe.  That's not bad for The Happening, but I still think it will do better.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Rohan on January 27, 2008, 04:27:52 PM
Hi guys,

I was watching SIGNs on my HDDVD, it was fun watching it again. After that I started thinking that why we are talking about "The Happening" success. Is it going to be successful or not. I mean WE DON'T BELIEVE IN M.NIGHT ANYMORE? You know guys, I do. I do believe in him. He is a awesome writer and director.

We as fans of M.Night should never confuse our believe,support,love,respect with the critics reviews or box office MONEY.

I am not picking on anyone here, just saying this as I wanted to take it out of my chest. I am waiting for "The Hapening". Mark my word, it will be a CLASSIC. A timeless Classic. Like today's "No Country For Old Men" and "There Will Be Blood" or even better.

Rohan

Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 27, 2008, 04:42:11 PM
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We as fans of M.Night should never confuse our believe,support,love,respect with the critics reviews or box office MONEY.

Is anyone confusing those two things here?
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on January 27, 2008, 10:26:58 PM
Not really, I was just interested in the website.  This 'money' thing isnt teatering me either way.  I didnt think the harsh words about the money issue were directed towards me or anyone else.  Its all good!  THE HAPPENING!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 28, 2008, 09:16:01 AM
Na, I'm not confused.  I think what people are saying is that they want The Happening to do well, not because it will affect their opinion of Shyamalan but because they want Shyamalan to do well.  Also, if Shyamalan takes enough bad box office hits he might decided to stop doing original scripts.  Go The Happening.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 28, 2008, 12:38:57 PM
Well said Mr Glass.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 28, 2008, 05:52:41 PM
Thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 28, 2008, 06:56:10 PM
Also, if Shyamalan takes enough bad box office hits he might decided to stop doing original scripts.  Go The Happening.

Yeah, it might not even be up to him. People could stop buying his scripts, or take away his final cut privileges.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Rohan on January 28, 2008, 09:11:17 PM
Hey guys,

My message was not against anyone here. If you see, there are directors that they suck big time and directors they are awesome and famous and their movies sometimes suck too. For example lets look at WOLGANG PETERSON his TROY didn't worked as it was expected (Troy Is One Of My Favorites) then Wolf directed "Poseidon" that sucked big time.

Look at al these other directors they all survive,but M.Night won't survive? I mean come on guys what's going on? M.Night writes original ideas. He doesn't only write them,  but directs it too. I give the guy 10/10. At IMDB.com forum of M.Night there are people talking SH*T, while they don't even know the art of film making or writing.

Rohan



Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 28, 2008, 10:59:26 PM
I think you make a good point. There are plenty of directors that have movies that flop. However, they typically don't write the movies that flop. There is a difference, and it isn't a minor one.

We aren't saying Night won't get to make movies anymore, or anything remotely like that. I think most of us are just pointing out the very real possibility that studios will have major hesitations about buying his scripts if he has a couple more failures. To me, to deny that is to deny the truth.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Rohan on January 28, 2008, 11:37:07 PM
I don't understand the thing with these studios. They are keep coming with the remakes or sequels or prequels. Writers are on strike cause they deserve what they must earn from their work. And studios still have the attitude of actually say NO to a awesome talented director/writer after a failure? I know they didn't do anything to M.night, but the word is already out as it's a possibility.

I am glad the writer's are on strike.

-Rohan
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 28, 2008, 11:50:39 PM
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I am glad the writer's are on strike.

Technically that means Shyamalan is on strike too.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 29, 2008, 09:57:59 AM
Yea, but is Shyamalan really on strike, I don't think so.  Who knows why production companies choos what movies to make, including lots of reruns and sequels.  I think Shyamalan is the best director out there, but I am afraid with a few more flop, by production companies standards and he will be relegated to directing movies where he didn't write the script. 
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 29, 2008, 09:58:49 AM
I know you're message wasn't against anyone on this site.  ;D
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 29, 2008, 01:16:05 PM
I'm pretty sure he's being careful. If the WGA finds out he's writting (which I doubt he is), he could be in trouble.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Rohan on January 29, 2008, 05:00:30 PM
I don't think that Night is on strike as he is not only writer, but an director as well. But I have a feeling that he has support to the writers strike. Writers deserves more. They are the ones creating jobs for all directors/actors just all the crew.

Rohan
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 29, 2008, 05:22:48 PM
It doesn't matter if you are a director as well as a writer, if you are a part of the WGA you can't write. Doesn't mean you can't direct, just that you can't write.

There are only a few people who have formed contracts that would allow otherwise, and I'm pretty sure Night isn't one of them.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 30, 2008, 09:48:54 AM
Yea, I guess you're right Dr Malcom Crowe, I hope the writers win out on this one so they don't have to write so many crappy scripts and get paid better.  Shyamalan's good, he's already doing The Happening, and then the Avatar trilogy. 
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 30, 2008, 09:49:46 AM
Wait a minute, do they already have the script written for the Avatar trilogy, or is that jammed up because of the strike.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Dr.Hill42 on January 30, 2008, 11:46:56 AM
Shouldn't be. Night wrote it.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: the_sorcerer on January 30, 2008, 12:29:05 PM
alright i know i'm new here, but i just wanted to chime in.....basically you guys have a point that yeah directors do flops, i don't think i've ever heard of a director never making one bad movie. but after the sixth sense, unbreakable, and signs, 3 amazing movies back to back, and all of his movies being marketed around his name, if he does make movies that the general public doesn't like as much (both the village and lady in the water i loved to death!), then you can lose your credibility with average movie goers faster than anything.  so yeah i'm a little worried that the happening might not do as well because people might just not be in to night anymore. i really hope it does blow up because i would flip out if he wasn't able to sell a script again.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 30, 2008, 12:46:23 PM
Wait a minute, do they already have the script written for the Avatar trilogy, or is that jammed up because of the strike.

There is no telling whether or not the final script was written. I know that Night had completed a detailed outline for the movie, but I doubt he's got a shooting draft of the script done.

So I am willing to bet that the script is being halted due to the strike. That's probably why they are casting and scouting locations.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 30, 2008, 03:27:23 PM
That would make sense about the lcoation scouting and casting.  I guess that could put the planned release date farther back though.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success of Bust
Post by: marco on February 06, 2008, 09:52:06 AM
The Happening is a movie made entirely by M.Night,don't forget it (except some producers,of course).He's always done what he wanted to do,so far.I think this movie will be just like the others for some reasons: it will make you feel that sense of magic and mystery applied to the real life that is typical of ALL his movies.At least,this is what I hope ;)
And,as someone already said,the greatest power he's got is the originality,a little thing Hollywood is losing.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 06, 2008, 02:21:49 PM
Yea, that's true about the originality and Hollywood, which is too bad.  I think the Avatar trilogy will have a distinct Shyamalan feel.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on February 07, 2008, 10:43:39 AM
Agreed!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 07, 2008, 04:28:43 PM
I mean, I'm also certainly hoping it will have that unique feel.  The Avatar trilogy takes place on this earth right.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 07, 2008, 05:39:21 PM
Basically. It's kinda like how LOTR works.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on February 08, 2008, 12:34:37 AM
Sounds sweet to me!   ;D
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 08, 2008, 09:53:36 AM
Oh, yea, that could be great.  You could film in regular places, but then have it slightly different than this earth to give it a slightly more magical, I hate using that word in this situation, but different feel.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: MrStone on February 11, 2008, 12:37:29 AM
I have mixed feelings about whether The Happening will be successful or not.  I read an early version of the script and thought the first 60 pages are good.  the last 40 were very linear.  I am hoping that later rewrites improved Act 3 to be less linear and more exciting.

then i saw the trailer and think it's very good marketing..

so, i'm torn, but i'm still very excited.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 11, 2008, 09:48:12 AM
I haven't seen the trailer, so I can't comment about that.  Also, I have only read reviews of the script, so again I can't comment on that.  My gut feeling though tells me that it will be a succes.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: Rulm on February 12, 2008, 03:24:54 PM
I think it could go either way. For it to be a success, it will need critical acclaim and word of mouth like Signs and The Sixth Sense...NOT like like Lady in the Water. :-\
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 13, 2008, 09:34:44 AM
I have to agree with you Rulm, The Sixth Sense was very under the radar, and then it debuted and people were like wow, this is a great movie, and then word of mouth took over.  I think it's key that The Happening is opening on Friday the 13th, that could get some extra people in, and then let word of mouth take over.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: stagefright on February 13, 2008, 10:12:43 PM
I have to agree with you Rulm, The Sixth Sense was very under the radar, and then it debuted and people were like wow, this is a great movie, and then word of mouth took over.  I think it's key that The Happening is opening on Friday the 13th, that could get some extra people in, and then let word of mouth take over.
I agree. I've always liked it when a movie does well through word of mouth. That's why I don't like seeing so much hype and advance publicity for films--the word-of-mouth energy is gone; people don't generally have much to say to their friends about a mega-hyped movie because everyone already knows what it's about, what the critics think, etc. etc.   

A nice, but low-key, ad campaign and word-of-mouth always seem to draw me to a movie more than scads of publicity. Don't know why. I think it's the fun of feeling like I'm 'discovering' the film myself.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: Psychilles on February 14, 2008, 03:13:15 AM
Does anyone know anything about the length of the film?
I checked, and all of his movies are somewhere between 107 and 111 minutes.. realy strange.. There all equaly as long. I think thats a length that he likes.
I heard George Lucas once say, that he though that a movie shouldn't be longer then 2,5 hours... so he cut's them like that.
That might have a negatif effect on a movie.... who knows.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 14, 2008, 09:41:29 AM
I'm assuming it will be around the length of his previous movies, that would be like Night, all of his movies are very specific.  I prefer longer movies when I go to the theater, but that's just so I feel like I got more for what I paid.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: DILinator on February 14, 2008, 02:11:26 PM
I think when it comes to Shyamalan, and his movies, the general audience is going to be less skeptical of him than the production companies were, and they'll eat this up.  Besdies, have you seen how well awful "scary" movies do at the box office?  If this is vintage M.Night, it will open well, get good word of mouth, and probably end up as his 3rd highest grossing film yet.  The "R" rating will hurt that bottom line somewhat, but I am fully expecting that this movie will be a success. 
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 15, 2008, 10:03:38 AM
That's the one thing, I think the R rating will hurt him.  R rated films never do as well as PG-13, for the most part.  I think it will be vintage M. Night and will rejuvinate him and his career.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: werebearxxx on February 23, 2008, 02:24:33 PM
i disagree.

ive worked in the MOVIE BUSINESS for 3 years now....(cleaning theaters....hahahahahha)
and pg -13 movies don't do half what they used too.

in our time- more and more people want gore and sex and violence and cussing...........more than in the old days.

i think the rating will only help the film sell.

but well just have to see.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 23, 2008, 07:53:33 PM
I am also happy that the theater won't be packed with teenage morons just there because they have nothing better to do. Weed out the pests. With an R rated film there will be a larger amount of mature people in the theater, therefore, less distractions.
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on February 24, 2008, 01:25:50 PM
I def. agree with that last comment!  All those goofy little girls snickering and chatting on their phones.  Im sure there will still be plenty though, since the theaters dont do the best of jobs checking ID, but Im sure there wont be as much.   ;D
Title: Re: The Happening-Success or Bust
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 25, 2008, 10:02:38 AM
I totally agree with Dr Malcom Crowe, still you could get the people who think they know a lot and are just snobs.  My theater does agood job checking ID, I saw three teens get caught trying to get into running scared, they were so mad. ;D