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Director and Composer => James Newton Howard => Topic started by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on November 07, 2007, 09:03:08 PM

Title: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on November 07, 2007, 09:03:08 PM
The first thing that comes to mind is something similar to Signs, but I hope JNH really surprises us with the direction he takes with this score.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on November 08, 2007, 09:33:38 AM
I'm thinking it should be something deeper, more horns and lower strings at the start.  Then when you first start getting hints about what is going on the higher strings, like the violin, and the flute should start to filter in, just a bit, kind've twisting around the main theme.  As the movie progresses that should get stronger and some sort of wind instrument should be used, to kind've represent life going out of things.  Then as you are reaching the climax, everything goes full blown and you have the deep clashing against higher strings of the environment as they battle and everyone is trying to survive.  Those are  my thoughts about what it should sound like.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on November 08, 2007, 09:54:47 AM
Interesting thoughts.

I hope he adds in some weird sounds/textures instead of using just a traditional orchestra (i.e. the cool bass recorders in The Village)

I am thinking there might be some sort of love theme that is augmented, or broken sounding. Also maybe a really cool theme that represents "nature", and one that represents "man".
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on November 08, 2007, 03:00:34 PM
That sound good, but I also hope he adds in some creepy stuff.  Sounds that are kind've on the edge, music that makes you feel edgy, unsure, unsettling.  Not neccesarily ghost kind've creepy but something that makes you not sure of what to expect, something slightly insidious.  On the subject of the love theme, that could be really good, James Newton Howard is really good at the beautiful, emotional, personal music so that could turn out really well.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on December 12, 2007, 01:43:31 AM
I'm sure Night already squeezed some main themes out of James a couple months ago, but by the way things go, James should be getting ready to start the bulk of the work for this film soon.

I'm just as excited about hearing the score as I am for seeing the movie!
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Rulm on December 12, 2007, 02:24:36 AM
Whatever it sounds like, it has a lot to live up to. One thing EVERYONE could agree on--including the critics--is that the musical scores for all of Nights films are great--including the disappointments.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on December 12, 2007, 09:39:18 AM
Yea, they are some of the best soundtracks in my collection.  Superb.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: DILinator on February 12, 2008, 03:15:12 PM
I think that it should combine the best elements of the last three soundtracks....

It should feature a strong "scary" theme like Signs has, that's very distinct and memorable....

It should have the understated beauty and mysterious airiness of The Village, which would work well for a movie dealing with the elements of nature....

And it should feature the depth of thematic complexity and variation that LITW brings, which plays so well as an entire soundtrack listening experience....

As somebody else mentioned, I'm just about as anxious to hear the soundtrack as see the movie... which is saying a lot!
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 13, 2008, 09:18:04 AM
I agree about waiting for the soundtrack as much as the movie.  But I think that, yes, in some ways it should contain some of the ideas of some of his previous soundtracks, but not too much, it needs to be it's own.  I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out totally different, because Night is sort of coming from a new direction here, James Newton Howard might also.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: DILinator on February 13, 2008, 10:37:40 AM
Yeah, when I said for it to be like a combination of the three, I was speaking more stylisticly than actually having music that sounds the same.  Obviously, it will be unique to The Happening, as each of the other movies' scores are.  But I think it will be a further maturation of the JNH/Shymalan sound, much as  LITW was. 
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 14, 2008, 09:17:25 AM
Oh, okay, sorry about that I misread.  I agree, I think the great composers are always maturing in their music, I like listening to their early music and then their latest works and comparing, it's quite fun actually.  ;D
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: MrStone on February 16, 2008, 12:09:06 AM
I think Howard could pull of a 'genius' move by using a minimalist hitchcock type approach..

very little music...and just let the scenario scare the audience.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 16, 2008, 01:00:19 PM
You mean something more along the lines of The Sixth Sense.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Rulm on February 16, 2008, 01:05:12 PM
I think that if the movie has somewhat of the same music from the second teaser trailer, it should be fantastic. It may not be Oscar worthy, but I think it fits the movie just right.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 18, 2008, 02:40:54 PM
I saw the trailer, the music from it was great.  I think it could be one of James Newton Howards masterpieces.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Wags on February 18, 2008, 03:39:07 PM
Are we even sure the music from the teaser was JNH?  I mean, the ominous music in the beginning sounds more like him, but the quasi-rock music that plays when Night's name pops up on the trailer doesn't sound like anything I've ever heard by JNH.  But then again, I've only listened to his scores for Night's movies.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 18, 2008, 04:54:21 PM
James score to The Lookout last year used a lot of guitar, acoustic and electric. Good score BTW.  ;)
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 19, 2008, 09:45:32 AM
There is a bunch of his stuff that I still need to check out.  I think it was his music during the trailer.  It had that weight to it that Unbreakable had to it's soundtrack.  It sounded very grand, but sad, and moving, I think it will be his best Night score yet.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: DILinator on February 19, 2008, 10:22:15 AM
I was wondering about the music in the trailer as well, but I have a feeling it probably is the score from the film.  If so, it's great, and I'm looking forward to hearing it in it's entirety. 

As for the "quasi-rock" not sounding like JNH, like somebody else here alluded to, remember Unbreakable?  That score's main theme definitely had a strong beat to it! 

Oh man, I can't wait for this film, and this score, on so many levels!  :D
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 19, 2008, 09:19:38 PM
Yea, I think it might have some pulsing similarities to Unbreakable.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: DILinator on February 20, 2008, 10:12:21 AM
If is has "scary" music along the lines of The Sixth Sense and Signs, coupled with some driving rhythm like Unbreakable, and the mysterious beauty of The Village and thematic complexity of Lady in the Water....  It'll be perfect!  8)
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 21, 2008, 09:24:00 AM
The best part of each soundtrack from his previous films, is what you're saying. ;D
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: DILinator on February 21, 2008, 02:19:53 PM
The best part of each soundtrack from his previous films, is what you're saying. ;D

Exactly!  8)
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 22, 2008, 09:24:30 AM
Cool, I mean it certainly, techinically wise would make it his best, there just needs to be something new and fresh to it.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Reflection on June 03, 2008, 02:36:02 AM
Didn't one of those "reviews" say the music was horrible??

Am I missing something or is the movie not out at all, would this be insiders, critics "might" make premature reviews on the old script or something, but how could anyone have heard the soundtrack yet?

Just wondering?
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: DILinator on June 04, 2008, 10:07:48 AM
If is has "scary" music along the lines of The Sixth Sense and Signs, coupled with some driving rhythm like Unbreakable, and the mysterious beauty of The Village and thematic complexity of Lady in the Water....  It'll be perfect!  8)

Having now heard the score, I can revisit this "wish list" of mine for The Happening score. 

I think the score does have "scary" music on par with The Sixth Sense, though maybe not as strong or interesting as Signs.  It has plenty of bass, though not that driving rhythm like Unbreakable.  Still, it does provide plenty of low end rumblings to give power to the score.  It definitely takes a stab at providing music with "mysterious beauty", providing almost a lullaby sounding piece.  It's not nearly as beautiful or pronounced as The Village, so it fails on that level in my opinion.  There doesn't seem to be the thematic complexity of LITW either, as it's pretty much mood music to provide an unsettling backdrop for a film that will no doubt be unnerving.  At the end of the CD, the music does take on an emotional and even slightly positive tone, but that little glimmer doesn't save it from being a far cry from JNH's best Shyamalan score in my opinion.  A good one, sure.  But a little bit of a let-down, at least to this listener.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on June 05, 2008, 09:06:58 AM
Hmm, that's too bad, but I'll wait to make my final decision until I get the soundtrack.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: DILinator on June 05, 2008, 11:19:35 AM
Hmm, that's too bad, but I'll wait to make my final decision until I get the soundtrack.

Honestly, unless you're going for the "virgin" experience like those who haven't even watched the trailers, I don't think there's much you're going to lose from purchasing the score in advance of seeing the movie.  I've always done that, and don't think there's really any downside to it.  I certainly don't know anything more about the movie than I ever did just from having listened to The Happening score.  Well, I guess I know this is not going to be a "feel good" movie in the least, but I already figured that would be the case as well.  It's certainly put me in a mood to see the movie though (as if that wasn't already the case)!   
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on June 06, 2008, 08:57:53 AM
Allright, then maybe I will get the soundtrack.  Except, when does it come out.  I did just get a new paycheck, so I think I'll go out and buy it.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: DILinator on June 06, 2008, 09:38:34 AM
Allright, then maybe I will get the soundtrack.  Except, when does it come out.  I did just get a new paycheck, so I think I'll go out and buy it.

It actually came out last Tuesday, so it should be in stores like Best Buy and the like now.  I would call ahead to make sure though.
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Reflection on June 07, 2008, 02:16:05 AM
Maybe that's how people hear it before?  :-*

So there are people in the world how go out and buy a cd of a movie before it comes to the theater, just to say it sucks. Aren't people just lovely?



Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: DILinator on June 07, 2008, 09:07:14 AM
Maybe that's how people hear it before?  :-*

So there are people in the world how go out and buy a cd of a movie before it comes to the theater, just to say it sucks. Aren't people just lovely?

I sure hope this comment wasn't directed at me, because if it is, you're WAY off base!

First off, I didn't say the score "sucked", and I actually said I liked it and recommended getting it. Was it a little bit of a let-down?  Sure.  Do I think it's one of the weaker scores from this collaboration?  Yes.  But I never said it sucked, and I have been listening to it a ton over the past week.  It sounds like it will fit the movie great, and in the end, that's what a movie score is supposed to do.  It's just not the strongest listen on CD is all I was saying.

To quote you: aren't people just lovely?  ::)
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Reflection on June 08, 2008, 04:47:28 AM
I haven't a clue who you are??

I've seen some comments on the soundtrack being bad and wondered about it.

So thanks for the random attack. ???
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: DILinator on June 08, 2008, 04:29:48 PM
I haven't a clue who you are??

I've seen some comments on the soundtrack being bad and wondered about it.

So thanks for the random attack. ???

I apologize if you weren't directing it at me....  Just based off what I'd written your comments appeared that way.  Again, I apologize for the "random attack", but realize that in context of this whole thread it didn't seem random. 
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Reflection on June 08, 2008, 07:12:13 PM
I read somewhere in The Happening movie thread that someone already had a bad review of the music..

I just posted that in the music thread to ask how it was possible, I didn't know they release the soundtrack first. I guess I didn't read far enough back in the thread, I just picked the closest suject and read a couple posts and asked.

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It's ok, things like that can happen, that's one of the downfalls of online.

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So I assume you listened to the new track already, when you listen to the music first and form an opinion and then hear the music with the movie, does it usually change your thoughts on the music with the "feeling" of the movie "pushing" it? Or does it usually stay the same? (your opinion of the music)
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: DILinator on June 08, 2008, 10:54:52 PM
I think hearing music in the context of a movie can change opinions.  However, I've already stated that I have no doubt this score will work great in the context of the movie.  I just don't think the listening experience on CD is as good as The Village or Lady in the Water.  The fact that LITW is my least favorite Shyamalan film didn't take away from the fact that it's music is probably my favorite, at least as heard on album. 
Title: Re: What will/should THE HAPPENING sound like?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on June 10, 2008, 10:04:52 AM
That's true, if you watch a movie, then the music might be hooked to really emotional parts and you'll like it even better.  One reason why I like The Prestige soundtrack.