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Title: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Rulm on December 22, 2007, 07:32:33 PM
There is something about The Sixth Sense that just screams superiority over Night's other films. Signs is my personal favorite, but The Sixth Sense has that something extra I can't explain. Maybe it's the control. Maybe it's the acting...I just can't figure it out! Every time I watch it , I'm amazed at what I have just seen...But it's difficult to point out why...My BEST explanation is that it has to be the story itself. And that may be it. I don't know. So what do you guys think? Oh, and, yeah, it may not be your favorite, but just post your opinions.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on December 23, 2007, 03:20:26 PM
It's not my favorite, the difference between my favorites of Shyamalan's films is about 0.0000000001, or something like that.  Anyways, to your point Rulm, yes, the story is superb, I also think it might be the barebones aspect of the film.  It is very simple, everyone can identify with the characters, and there is nothing else to distract you from the film, no action sequences or pointless scenes, just a good all around film.  Those are some of my thoughts, though I will probably have some more soon.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on January 04, 2008, 01:19:21 AM
I totally understand where you are coming from!  I just stuck it in my dvd player last night and watched it for kicks.  I am BLOWN AWAY EVERYTIME i watch this film!  The sad parts make me sad, everytime.  I always get sucked in and find myself believing the story!  I am always shocked, blown away, baffled and taken back by the ending!  I think, like you said, "its the bare bones."  It's so simple, really easy to follow and you feel for the characters; yet, at the same time its kind of mystifying on on how you believed the lie the whole entire time.  Another thing I noticed was the long takes, very subtle, hardly noticed.  Watch the film again, even start it from where Cole and his mother are talking about Grandma's pendant.  They are such long takes and this draws you in, besides its a tremendous story.  As movie watchers, we are so accumstomed to fast editing and many differnt angles, this film has none of that.  Lot's of slow almost un-noticable dolly shots.  The behind the scene footage is as good as the movie itself!
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Rulm on January 04, 2008, 02:49:28 AM
I knew I wasn't the only one who sees it like this! Yeah, I'm gonna' go back and watch it again!
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 04, 2008, 12:51:25 PM
Me too, man Shyamalan is amazing.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on January 04, 2008, 01:07:59 PM
Yeah!  Post other things that you notice after you watch it again!  Love to hear other people's opinions!
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 05, 2008, 12:00:52 PM
I bet when we watch it there will be so many things we will notice if we just look for them.  Shyamalan's is that type of director.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 28, 2008, 06:22:46 PM
There is something to this film that just feels special. I think it's that somewhat unidentifiable quality that makes this movie a pop-culture icon. It's not something you can set out to do, it just happens I think.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 29, 2008, 09:46:25 AM
Yea, it's very unique, even though it is a ghost story, it's different from the others.  It's very simple and real, with a certain beautiful quality to it.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on January 30, 2008, 09:20:14 PM
Its wierd, your right, its a ghost story, but it really doesnt scare you.  I mean, yeah it makes you jump like crazy, but it doesnt really scare you like horror movies do.  Everyone is right, there is something about this that just sticks and is something that happens!
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 31, 2008, 09:27:53 AM
It's just a story in it's barest form, not lots of dialogue, just a good story.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 31, 2008, 11:05:42 AM
The dialog in this film is also superb. It feels very natural, and honest. The humor is also very subtle and genuine.

It also helps that the performances across the board are excellent.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 31, 2008, 05:49:04 PM
Yea, Shyamalan always gets good acting for his films.  All of Shyamalan's films always have small bit of dry humor to them that just makes his films that much better, yes the dialogue is superb, very realistic and heartfelt.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: MrStone on February 11, 2008, 11:49:44 PM
I think I'm just the opposite...Sixth Sense (though fun to watch) is not my favorite.  Maybe it's been shown on t.v. so much, you just get tired of it, or maybe it's the one everyone likes and i'm just trying to be different...who knows?

part of it, though, is there are some inconsistencies that bother me a little with this film that aren't apparent in other ones..

my personal favorites are signs and the village.  really great soundtracks too.

Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 12, 2008, 09:46:16 AM
Oh yes, the soundtrack for The Village is superb, The Sixth Sense is not my favorite of Night's films, though it is right behind the others by an infentecimal percentage.  What inconsistencies bother you MrStone.  I fell the same way though, I usually go against the mainstream in what I like and do.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: MrStone on February 12, 2008, 12:50:01 PM
the inconsistencies...some of you might think these are stupid, but nonetheless...

a.  how did malcolm get an appointment with the kid if he's dead?  and yet didnt meet him before...if the kid is the only one who sees him, but didnt meet malcolm...how was the appointment arranged.

b.  cole comes home in one scene and finds malcolm there with his mom.  that completely breaks the rules..he doesnt know he's dead - and no one but cole can see him...how and why did he gain entry to the house? 
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Rulm on February 12, 2008, 03:17:50 PM
To answer your questions:

a. The ghosts only see what they want to see. Remember, they are drawn to Cole 'cuz they need his help, but the ghosts don't necessarily know this.

b. He was sitting there. Thinking to himself. He doesn't know he's dead, but Cole does, which is why he doesn't mention him to his mom. And for how he got in...He's a freakin' ghost! LOL!

If you ask me, The Village was waaay more inconsistent then anything in The Sixth Sense. But, again, I'm sure each event could be explained.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 13, 2008, 09:20:14 AM
Nice reply Rulm, yes MrStone, I thought the same things until I saw the special features and thought about it some more.  Rulm, what inconsistencies did you think you found in The Village, just wondering, I might be able to explain a few.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Rulm on February 13, 2008, 11:51:53 AM
Just little things like:

a. How/why in the world would the elders place the costumes under the floorboards in the "bad room" where Noah was being held? How did Noah know they were there?

b. Ivy got a major head start on Noah when she took off for the meds...How did Noah catch up? And why was he in the costume?

There are a few others, but I can't think of them at this moment.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 14, 2008, 09:22:34 AM
Allright, well a. I really don't know, because they had the shed not to be used, where they stored the others, why store one right there? ???  Any help guys.  For the second part, Noah was in the "bad room" so much, relatively speaking, that he had time to explore and find it.  For b. Noah was a very determined person, he gets in the costume and heads after her, he doesn't stop in the night when she does, and he's able to catch up to her.  Why was he in the costume, because he thought everything was one big game, Ivy always talked about the game where they would stand near the woods and wait for "those we do not speak of" to come.  Well Ivy was now in the woods and Noah could chase her.  I don't know if any of these explanations help at all.  Hopefully they do.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Rulm on February 14, 2008, 11:53:37 AM
Well, they kind of make sense...But a lot of it sounds too unreal...I don't know.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Unbroken on February 14, 2008, 02:08:15 PM
Here's my take.

a) The Elders didn't always want to take a trek to the Shed, so they also hid the suits in the houses for convenience sake. As for Noah finding one, Mr_Glass.1's explanation works for me. Noah wasn't unintelligent, he just had learning and articulation issues. Noah was a sneak, and the fact that he visited the woods regularly means he probably saw the "monsters" and figured out they were fakes. It's obvious he knew the whole thing was a hoax, considering he always cracked up when the creatures made noise or invaded the village. To him, it was all a joke.

Eventually, however, this brings him to a much more sinister conclusion: Evil is a joke.

He begins to think there is something funny about swatting younger boys with sticks, handing someone a symbol of evil (the red berries), and takes a peculiar delight in Lucius "getting in trouble."

This leads to question b) Why was Noah in the costume?

Noah wore the monster suit because he was evil. In his bitterness he gave himself over to complete depravity, and put on the creature suit to show his acceptance of the dark side of his soul. He decided to become an animal. He wanted to make Ivy pay for choosing someone else over him, and for rejecting him when he tried to take the life of his rival.

He put on the monster suit as an expression of his condition.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 15, 2008, 09:45:21 AM
I wouldn't go quite that far unbroken, I still think he thought everything was still something of a game, he just didn't quite know how to react.  He still was giving himself over to evil in what he was doing, just not quite as vividly as you describe.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Unbroken on February 15, 2008, 02:52:50 PM
I don't think he was "playing a game".

He knew he was freaking Ivy out of her wits, and he intentionally threw her on the ground.

Not to mention he killed and skinned other peoples' animals, leaving them around the village and hanging them from peoples' houses on the night of his significant others' sister's wedding as a "joke".

He was sick. He was capable of affection and joy, as we see repeatedly, but he had problems. Serious problems.

He might not of meant to kill or seriously injure Ivy, but I'm sure there was nothing funny going on behind the monster mask. He was frustrated and angry, acting out of uncontrolled self-earned anguish. He was behaving like a rabid animal.

That's the way I see it.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 16, 2008, 01:03:31 PM
I mean that's understandable.  I guess I see what you're saying, he was sliding under the radar because of his condition, I think he knew what he was doing but it wasn't deliberately violent at the start, but as the movie progresses he does turn increasingly violent, and then he tries to murder Lucius.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: okokokok on February 24, 2008, 05:17:52 PM
I feel very differently about this movie.  I enjoy it, but compared to all the movies that follow, it pales in comparison to how I react to it.  I remember I saw it and I was like "that was pretty cool", but that was it.  Then when Unbreakable came out, I randomly went and saw it.  I freaked out I loved it so much.  One of the best movie going experiences I had up until that point in my life.  I went back and watched The Sixth Sense and still, nothing.  But after I saw Signs I was completely on board with M Night and have completely loved each movie more than the last.  So, I think that I could say "what is it about this movie?" for every movie that followed The Sixth Sense, but not The Sixth Sense itself.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 25, 2008, 09:48:47 AM
I saw Signs first, so I was hooked.  Then I saw The Village, then Unbreakable, then The Sixth Sense, then Lady In The Water.  I have loved each of his movies when I saw them.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Prince111 on March 22, 2009, 06:26:24 PM
This movie is more than a movie, it's an experience.  I think it's the atmosphere and the fact that the characters are so honest and vulnerable that makes this movie what it is.
Title: Re: What is it about this movie???
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on March 28, 2009, 02:13:07 PM
Prince111, agreed, I completely agree with you, especially Cole, he seems so incredibly vulnerable so you feel his pain.