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Films => The Happening => Topic started by: Unbroken on February 20, 2008, 01:52:36 PM

Title: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Unbroken on February 20, 2008, 01:52:36 PM
Here are a few things I picked up while watching the trailer. I'm sure most or some of you noticed these too and I just wanted to know what y'all thought.

First of all, it doesn't look like everyone kills themselves. It seems like some people just keel over.

I've replayed the part where the police man dies about ten times. Although we don't actually see it happen, there doesn't seem to be any evidence of self inflicted or even external injury. At first I thought he might have stepped in front of the car, but the car isn't dented at all. And there is no blood whatsoever. And as far as I can tell, his gun is still in his holster. His death is obviously sudden; his eyes are open and the hat has just fallen there.

In the first trailer, it shows people in the park flop over dead without any noticeable reason at all. So I'm assuming that perhaps the toxins either shut people down or compel them to shut themselves down.

Secondly, this is Night's first thriller where he actually takes the camera outside of the experience of the main characters. The Happening should have a very different feel than his other films, which will be interesting.

And lastly: THE BUTTERFLIES.

Elliot Moore (Mark Wahlberg's character) has some butterflies strung up in his classroom. We see them at 18 seconds into the trailer, "unimportantly" set aside at his desk. But we see them AGAIN at 2 minutes and 26 seconds into the trailer, right smack dab in the face of the camera.

Considering Night likes to use the same elements or objects (water, glass, rocking chairs, colors) for different symbolisms in each different movie, and butterflies had a message in Lady in the Water, I'm pretty sure butterflies will have meaning once again.

I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for those little buggers throughout The Happening. I already have some theories for what they might mean.


Opinions, anyone?


--- Science will come up with some reason to put in the books, but in the end it will be just a theory. We will fail to acknowledge... that there are forces at work beyond our understanding. ---
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Rohan on February 20, 2008, 09:04:12 PM
Never saw the butterflies. I will check it out.

Rohan
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Rohan on February 20, 2008, 09:11:50 PM
I saw it. You are right. Never noticed it before.

Mnight ROCKS...

Rohan
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 21, 2008, 09:55:02 AM
Unbroken, remember, this is a trailer so they can't have too violent stuff in it.  What was weird about the police man, was, obviously he is dead, but then why does the car just pull away?  ???  I noticed the butterflies also, I think it will play a key role in the film also.  I think this will be the first film where Night will film outside of Philly, is that right. 
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Unbroken on February 21, 2008, 10:09:24 AM
To my understanding the drama of the main characters takes place in Philly, but Night is also going to take the camera elsewhere where the toxins are spreading.


The fact that it's a trailer and can't have blood everywhere came to mind, but I still can't see how the police man died of sudden outside physical trauma. It just doesn't add up. We'll just have to wait and see I guess. Anything's possible with this movie.


--- Science will come up with some reason to put in the books, but in the end it will be just a theory. We will fail to acknowledge... that there are forces at work beyond our understanding. ---
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 22, 2008, 09:29:44 AM
**Spoiler**





Also, I heard a rumor, that the people it can't get to commit suicide it just kills, I don't if that rumor is true.  That might explain the police man.  I think that's great that Night will be doing some filming outside of Philly.
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 26, 2008, 09:45:39 AM
I was mistaken, when the police man dies the car is not backing away, the door is opening, but the shot is fading so I saw it incorrectly. 
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: MrStone on February 28, 2008, 12:41:48 AM
Unbroken, remember, this is a trailer so they can't have too violent stuff in it.  What was weird about the police man, was, obviously he is dead, but then why does the car just pull away?  ???  I noticed the butterflies also, I think it will play a key role in the film also.  I think this will be the first film where Night will film outside of Philly, is that right. 

Signs was outside of Philly.
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: MrStone on February 28, 2008, 12:42:33 AM
**Spoiler**





Also, I heard a rumor, that the people it can't get to commit suicide it just kills, I don't if that rumor is true.  That might explain the police man.  I think that's great that Night will be doing some filming outside of Philly.
SPOILER - DON'T READ IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW..












based on what i have read, that statement is not correct, but the later drafts may have added that in, but i don't see why as its pretty well explained.

















END OF SPOILER
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 28, 2008, 09:27:15 AM
Allright, thank you MrStone, like I said, it was a rumor I had heard.  I meant his first film outside of Pennsylvania, because you're right, Signs and The Village took place outside of Philly.
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Vick on February 29, 2008, 05:59:51 AM
Full trailer make The Happening simmiliar  Stevens's King Myst , and you don't think so?
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 29, 2008, 09:04:46 AM
I don't think that the trailer really makes them look that similar.
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Unbroken on February 29, 2008, 12:09:24 PM
Okay I have no idea what's going on right now because I haven't read any of the recent posts due to the spoiler warnings.  ??? :-\ ::)


--- Science will come up with some reason to put in the books, but in the end it will be just a theory. We will fail to acknowledge... that there are forces at work beyond our understanding. ---
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: MrStone on February 29, 2008, 11:33:03 PM
Okay I have no idea what's going on right now because I haven't read any of the recent posts due to the spoiler warnings.  ??? :-\ ::)


--- Science will come up with some reason to put in the books, but in the end it will be just a theory. We will fail to acknowledge... that there are forces at work beyond our understanding. ---

interestingly enough, i think that part was added into a later version of the script.  the version i have read is one of the first drafts...and that line was never in there....i did think that was an interesting statement.
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on March 01, 2008, 02:20:03 PM
I like that quote, each Night film has one of those in them, kind of like the one with Merrill and Graham in Signs, on the couch at night.
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Unbroken on March 03, 2008, 11:38:55 AM
Nobody writes a script like M. Night. Nobody.


--- Science will come up with some reason to put in the books, but in the end it will be just a theory. We will fail to acknowledge... that there are forces at work beyond our understanding. ---
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on March 04, 2008, 09:20:15 AM
That's true, that's also one of the reasons I like Night's movies.
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Psychilles on March 05, 2008, 04:27:01 AM
The trailer feel as though this movie is gonna be far more massive and epic.. so to say, then any of his previous films.
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Psychilles on March 05, 2008, 04:38:55 AM
I just noticed that at the end of the trailer, just after the last Wham of Bam or whatever.. you can heard a realy soft breathing sound.
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on March 05, 2008, 09:04:08 AM
I think I noticed that too, though I'm not sure it means anything.  I think it will be much more epic, especially if he has filming outside of Philly, and more than just a few shots.
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Kable on March 05, 2008, 11:24:23 PM
The happening is going to be a very diferent movie in many ways. That Cityscapes shots make me feel weird. Like it wasn?t one of his closed-in-group-of-characters kind of movie. 'This time, it?s global' and I believe in his creativity. I?m woried about the ADV campain. In my country they destroyed the suspense of the title translating it as O Fim dos Tempos(End of Times). Will they sell it like a I am Legend or something?
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: MrStone on March 06, 2008, 12:01:30 AM
The happening is going to be a very diferent movie in many ways. That Cityscapes shots make me feel weird. Like it wasn?t one of his closed-in-group-of-characters kind of movie. 'This time, it?s global' and I believe in his creativity. I?m woried about the ADV campain. In my country they destroyed the suspense of the title translating it as O Fim dos Tempos(End of Times). Will they sell it like a I am Legend or something?
vc eh brasileiro ou portugues?
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on March 06, 2008, 08:59:23 AM
...And I'm lost, o well.   ;D  It does appear that The Happening is going to be more global though, and I think that will be good for it.
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Kable on March 06, 2008, 01:44:56 PM
vc eh brasileiro ou portugues?

Brasileiro =)
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Unbroken on March 06, 2008, 02:00:24 PM
Ci! Ci! Uno!
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on March 06, 2008, 09:08:18 PM
Shut up, please, speak English.  I don't like being made fun of.  :D
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: MrStone on March 06, 2008, 11:31:18 PM
vc eh brasileiro ou portugues?

Brasileiro =)

ah, que bom!  Minha esposa eh uma brasileira do nordeste.  A gente casou la na igreja dela!

TRANSLATION FOR THE ANGLOS:  That's Great! My wife is a brazilian from the Northeast.  We married there in her church. ;) (see we're not making fun of you, Mr. Glass.1)
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on March 07, 2008, 09:00:41 AM
No, I know, I really don't mind, keep talking,  it's just kind of funny.  I think it's cool though that several people can talk in another language on this board. :D
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Rohan on March 08, 2008, 03:15:07 PM
The Happening is also going to be a little bit controversial to the people who specially deals with GLOBAL WARMING. It will be also controversial those who read bible and go to church too much. It will be also controversial to us, regular people who watch movies,sleep,walk,read,work,dance,have sex, as this will be disturbing our feelings. Controversy in our own minds. M.Night is a master of ideas and very well behaved and well focused film maker. I sometimes think about him. He is a writer who creates ideas and then he decided to bring those ideas and characters on the screen.

The sky scrappers in the trailer/movie is a really great symbol. Who lives in them? US. People like us work or live inside them.

I have read the script of this movie. It's awesome as usual I can say it proudly. I always believe in M.Night. He always comes with an unique idea.

This is will be also a movie that can teach us the value of earth and greenary. I mean we humans don't appreciate anything when it comes to nature. We pollute it, we don't care about it. Think about millions of years ago, animals back then looked weird and they just vanished from the face of this earth. Which means every living thing has its time and period. Later on, something will happen to them and they will be vanished and there will be a new species that surface on the earth.

M.Night sat,wrote an idea and possibility of how may humans go away. It doesnt' always mean that an scientist or a professor can tell us meaningful things. An writer/Director/Novelist can also. And M.Night will tell us on friday 13th.

Anyone agree with me?

Rohan
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Maya on March 08, 2008, 05:02:09 PM
hey, i was just watching the trailer again and they were talking about the bees' dissapearance....does anyone know what the actual cause of the disappearance's were for our 'real life' bee and bird dissapearance? and does anyone think that Night may have gotten the idea for the bees from what was happening to them in real life?
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Maya on March 08, 2008, 05:26:35 PM
about the butterfly thing at the beginning of the thread...it came to mind that the butterflies may symbolize the Butterfly Effect.

the following is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

The butterfly effect is a phrase which encapsulates the more technical notion of sensitive dependence on initial conditions in chaos theory. Small variations of the initial condition of a nonlinear dynamical system may produce large variations in the long term behavior of the system. So this is sometimes presented as esoteric behavior, but can be exhibited by very simple systems: for example, a ball placed at the crest of a hill might roll into any of several valleys depending on slight differences in initial position.

The phrase refers to the idea that a butterfly's wings might create tiny changes in the atmosphere that ultimately cause a tornado to appear (or prevent a tornado from appearing). The flapping wing represents a small change in the initial condition of the system, which causes a chain of events leading to large-scale phenomena. Had the butterfly not flapped its wings, the trajectory of the system might have been vastly different.
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Maya on March 08, 2008, 05:27:21 PM
also, i was starting the trailer again and the writing on the chalkboard on behind the teacher caught my eye!

here's what it says:

attributed to einstein

"if the bees disappeared off the surface of the globe
than man would only have four years of life left."


r. frost.

On glossy wires artistically bent,
He draws himself up to his full extent.
His natty wings with self-assurance perk.
His stinging quarters menacingly work.
Poor egotist, he has no way of knowing
But he's as good as anybody going.
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Maya on March 08, 2008, 05:31:02 PM
The Happening is also going to be a little bit controversial to the people who specially deals with GLOBAL WARMING. It will be also controversial those who read bible and go to church too much. It will be also controversial to us, regular people who watch movies,sleep,walk,read,work,dance,have sex, as this will be disturbing our feelings. Controversy in our own minds. M.Night is a master of ideas and very well behaved and well focused film maker. I sometimes think about him. He is a writer who creates ideas and then he decided to bring those ideas and characters on the screen.

The sky scrappers in the trailer/movie is a really great symbol. Who lives in them? US. People like us work or live inside them.

I have read the script of this movie. It's awesome as usual I can say it proudly. I always believe in M.Night. He always comes with an unique idea.

This is will be also a movie that can teach us the value of earth and greenary. I mean we humans don't appreciate anything when it comes to nature. We pollute it, we don't care about it. Think about millions of years ago, animals back then looked weird and they just vanished from the face of this earth. Which means every living thing has its time and period. Later on, something will happen to them and they will be vanished and there will be a new species that surface on the earth.

M.Night sat,wrote an idea and possibility of how may humans go away. It doesnt' always mean that an scientist or a professor can tell us meaningful things. An writer/Director/Novelist can also. And M.Night will tell us on friday 13th.

Anyone agree with me?

Rohan


heck yea!

p.s.  i can already see that this one is gonna be a thinker to everyone whatever their religion, culture, beliefs, etc. 
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Maya on March 08, 2008, 09:10:11 PM
you know...the very end of the trailer makes me feel like it might be a part two to signs.  like as though they've figured out how to rid us after the last time so that we can't get them again...doubt it, but that's what came to mind. ;)
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Unbroken on March 08, 2008, 09:41:59 PM
Hey I like your thinking, Maya! You made some good observations.

About the "real life" occurrences of dying birds and bees, I wouldn't be surprised if that is how Night got the idea. I'll bet he's cleverly tying in a current event that people tend to purposefully overlook because we don't know precisely what it means, and we are, in a way, afraid of it because of that. We'll never admit it, but when we hear about these types of things we forget about them and pretend they aren't happening. But they are happening. We leave it to the "professionals" because we might not like what we find.

I've heard a theory that radio signals are confusing bees and keeping them from getting back to their hives. I don't know how valid the theory is though.

The Happening will be the most frightening Shyamalan film to date. Not just because people will be jumping off buildings and stabbing themselves with hairpins, but because it ties in directly to our own lives. Most of us have heard the stories about bees disappearing. And we've acted like it doesn't matter. But Night will prove that it does matter, and that unexplainable events ARE happening.

Bees are dying. What will happen next?

M. Night will force us to look at things like they actually matter.


--- Science will come up with some reason to put in the books, but in the end it will be just a theory. We will fail to acknowledge... that there are forces at work beyond our understanding. ---
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: MrStone on March 08, 2008, 09:46:04 PM
hey, i was just watching the trailer again and they were talking about the bees' dissapearance....does anyone know what the actual cause of the disappearance's were for our 'real life' bee and bird dissapearance? and does anyone think that Night may have gotten the idea for the bees from what was happening to them in real life?


that would be a spoiler :)

as is Rohan's statement. 

Rohan i've also read the script.  I thought the first half was phenomenal..and the second half...well i wasn't as impressed with it, but i read an early version of the script, so we'll see what changes have been made.

but i agree with you...he challenges the way we think, the things we believe, and he does it...all without us realizing..
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: MrStone on March 08, 2008, 09:51:07 PM
Hey I like your thinking, Maya! You made some good observations.

About the "real life" occurrences of dying birds and bees, I wouldn't be surprised if that is how Night got the idea. I'll bet he's cleverly tying in a current event that people tend to purposefully overlook because we don't know precisely what it means, and we are, in a way, afraid of it because of that. We'll never admit it, but when we hear about these types of things we forget about them and pretend they aren't happening. But they are happening. We leave it to the "professionals" because we might not like what we find.

I've heard a theory that radio signals are confusing bees and keeping them from getting back to their hives. I don't know how valid the theory is though.

The Happening will be the most frightening Shyamalan film to date. Not just because people will be jumping off buildings and stabbing themselves with hairpins, but because it ties in directly to our own lives. Most of us have heard the stories about bees disappearing. And we've acted like it doesn't matter. But Night will prove that it does matter, and that unexplainable events ARE happening.

Bees are dying. What will happen next?

M. Night will force us to look at things like they actually matter.


--- Science will come up with some reason to put in the books, but in the end it will be just a theory. We will fail to acknowledge... that there are forces at work beyond our understanding. ---

i'm pretty sure most of Night's stuff comes from real life examples..

The Village - The idea of the monsters came from Night reading that colonial americans believed there were monsters and creatures in the unexplored areas of the frontier.

Signs - The crop circles, but a lot of the dialogue seems to come straight from "crop circle documentaries"...the 'it can't be by hand -  it's too perfect' statement...i recall the documentary about a decade ago that said almost the same thing verbatim.

The Happening - well, yes..but I won't go into detail.

Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Rohan on March 09, 2008, 03:24:36 PM
I think the whole script I read months back was just written with heart and passion. And also, no body should forget this that M.Night made some changes to the script afterwards per studio requests.

Speaking of Honey Bees. It's true they are going to be vanished and there is nothing in this world with our top technology to stop it. No one can face the mother nature. Not to forget we are part of the nature too. When a person is going to die and taking the last breathe, who can stop it. No one.

Let me share with you all this little story that I was thinking last night. I am from Afghanistan, I was a small kid when parents resided to India. New Delhi. I grew up their until I became a teenager. I was in 8th grade and one hot afternoon I was walking home with my bag on my shoulder. Sweat was dripping from my forehead. I saw a lemonade seller, I bought a small bottle of lemonade. Just walking atleast few blocks more. I saw a children park in an quite neighborhood. I went  inside the park and I sat on bench under a thick tree. I was feeling cold breeze on my forehead and sipping on my lemonade slowly. Under my feet was dirt, where grass was totally gone as lots of people used the bench. On the dirt, or I should say on the eart was a tiny hole. I saw some small wierd insects comes out from that tiny hole and they are holding their fellow mates dead bodies. I was amazed how they are cleaning up. I immediately killed one and put one on my palm. The Dead body was a ANT and the wied insect was tiny,skinny like wood color and almost shaped like GRASS HOPPER without wings. I threw it away. I took a stick and stabbed in right on the hole in the ground. Millions of those insects with in a second crawled on the stick. I jumped back and left the stick their.

And then I poured a little bit water in my lemonade bottle from the park pipe which is for watering the flowers and grass. I spilled a little bit water on the whole. Those insects came out and running away for their lives. But they were dieing in the process of escaping. The water as a matter of fact killed all of them. I was shocked, just shocked.

Last night, I was just remembering it and I compared it with THE HAPPENING plot, bees going away plot. I came with an understanding that there are things beyond our understanding. Those wierd insects took over a ant colony and killed all of them. And then when I poured water, they died instantly. They were sensitive of water. Who knows probably they were new kind of ants.

There are things in this unique planet of ours that it's just beyond our undertanding and imagination.

Rohan
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on March 10, 2008, 08:14:46 AM
That's a weird story Rohan, and cool.  I can't say much more because most of it has been said by other people.  Rohan, I do think the film will be controversial, like his other films, or most of them, I think we will find a way to stop the bees from dying, but I'm not 100% sure.  HIs films are scary because they relate too us, The Happening will especially, and it will be scary.
Title: Re: Things I Noticed in the Trailers
Post by: Rohan on March 10, 2008, 07:50:08 PM
Agree with you Mr.Glass