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Title: Aspiring composer who would love to direct
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 20, 2008, 04:03:27 PM
I have been a big fan of cinema for many years now. My youth is full of memories of me walking around with a camcorder trying to make mini-movies.

As I grew older I started getting into music more and more. I played piano and french horn for most of my school days. In college I got my first degree in Music Production and Technology. I started my second degree in Digital Interactive Systems at the University of Central Florida's School for Film and Digital Media in 2006. Since then I have been getting back in to film, but this time around as a composer.

I love all of the art forms that are involved with film-making, and dream of writing music for many films in my lifetime. If I had the chance to direct a project big or little, I'd jump on the opportunity. I think I've still got the talent, and believe that it's been strengthened by the studying of great directors like Hitchcock, Spielberg, Kubrick, and of course Shyamalan.

 :)
Title: Re: Aspiring composer who would love to direct
Post by: DILinator on February 20, 2008, 04:43:15 PM
Though I have a good sense for music, and can adapt anybody's music to fit the movies I've made, I'm no composer myself, and can't even read music well play any instrument.  So while I can tell what kind of music I want where, and surround myself with film music constantly, I'll probably never be the guy that actually composes my music. 

However, to have somebody who can do that, and also has an ear for and appreciates film music, would be very nice indeed!  To that end, I would definitely be interested in potentially collaborating with you at some point down the road, once I feel ready to share my creations in a professional setting.  Your familiarity and favor of Shyamalan's movies, and JNH's is also a plus, as those are both very strong influences of mine in the first few films I've made.  In fact, the "temp tracks" for my first few films, all of which are in the "thriller/suspense" genre, are all JNH/Shyamalan scores. 

Correct me if I'm misreading what you're asking for here.  But I think you were basically asking if anybody wanted you to compose music for their movies.  If that's the case, then I am interested, and we should probably discuss the matter further.  Thanks for offering your services, and I could potentially see a nice fit here!
Title: Re: Aspiring composer who would love to direct
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 21, 2008, 01:33:18 PM
I've made short films, but my greatest accomplishment was making an hour long film, with story and plot, although maybe not that good, it was still a lot of fun and I learned a lot.  For the music for the film I took music from the soundtracks that I own, consisting mainly of James Newton Howard and Hans Zimmer.  I have never really played an instrument, nor think I would be able to, but I still want to put original music to my next film so I can enter it into a film festival.  Thanks to some tips from Dr Malcom Crowe, I may be able to buy some music programs this summer.  Otherwise I will have to find some way to get music for it.
Title: Re: Aspiring composer who would love to direct
Post by: DILinator on February 21, 2008, 02:10:52 PM
My best finished movie I've made is about 50 minutes long.  But it's the middle movie of a trilogy.  The first movie (which actually is a joke really) is 26 minutes, but the 3rd, which I'm still completing filming on, will be around an hour and a half.  I expect that when it's all said and done, it will be quite and effective little film.
Title: Re: Aspiring composer who would love to direct
Post by: MrStone on February 21, 2008, 11:32:30 PM
Here in northwest arkansas - there are not many aspiring filmmakers.  The ones who do have such weird ideas  and are so far out in left field that it's not really worth it.  However, there is one guy who lives here whom you can IMDB his name and he has a pretty extensive career in UFO Documentaries and small-time low budget crapola.  If you saw it...you'd know.
Title: Re: Aspiring composer who would love to direct
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 22, 2008, 09:47:38 AM
That's cool DILinator, keep up the hard work, and hard it is.  The movie I am writing a script for now is hopefully going to be pushing two hours.  We'll see.  Well MrStone, be the light in the darkness out there.
Title: Re: Aspiring composer who would love to direct
Post by: DILinator on February 22, 2008, 10:35:27 AM
That's cool DILinator, keep up the hard work, and hard it is.  The movie I am writing a script for now is hopefully going to be pushing two hours.  We'll see.  Well MrStone, be the light in the darkness out there.

It's always interesting to see how scripts translate into filming time, and then actual run time after editing.  My first rough edit of my second movie was over 50 minutes without intro and credits.  My second edit, a more fine one, brought that under 50 minutes.  And now my most precise edit of the film is about 45 minutes without intro and credits.  I'm in the process of editing the footage I already have from the 3rd film, and I'm actually beginning to wonder there if my original time estimates were conservative.  But we'll see how it all pans, and edits out.
Title: Re: Aspiring composer who would love to direct
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 25, 2008, 10:12:56 AM
Well good luck to you.  My first short film I thought would be half an hour, it turned out to be 15 minutes, at the longest.  After that I got better at estimating how long a film would be.
Title: Re: Aspiring composer who would love to direct
Post by: DILinator on February 25, 2008, 12:56:16 PM
I'm editing the second half of my "big" movie right now, and I'm only about halfway through that, and it's already pushing 45 minutes.  So I think I might have underestimated.  The biggest reason though was a flashback scene (or sequence of scenes) that was shot seperately, and required a decent bit of editing, so I was never really sure how long it would be.  Turns out it alone was about 20 minutes.  SO already my movie's too long to be classified as a "Short Film" anymore, and I'm nowhere near finished!  ;D
Title: Re: Aspiring composer who would love to direct
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 26, 2008, 09:53:14 AM
I'm just wondering where you live DILinator.  I don't like to put a time limit on my films, jsut like I don't like to put a page limit on my papers, because I feel that it limits what I can do because I am worried about what room I have left, or have left to fill.
Title: Re: Aspiring composer who would love to direct
Post by: DILinator on March 01, 2008, 12:18:16 AM
I'm just wondering where you live DILinator.  I don't like to put a time limit on my films, jsut like I don't like to put a page limit on my papers, because I feel that it limits what I can do because I am worried about what room I have left, or have left to fill.

I live in Michigan. 

I've never put a time limit on them either.  I create the story, and however long that turns out to be in actual filming, so be it.  However, I tend to lean towards the longer stories, so it's not a surprise that TB 3 (an abbreviated term for my BIG movie) is now going to likely push closer to two hours.  I'm up to an hour now and I haven't finished the second half (though it's not the "second half" in the strictest sense of the word, as the majority of the first half hasn't been filmed yet, and therefore the duration in unknown at this time). 

I wrote a couple of novels years ago, and many people I knew read them and they became a local phenomenon, though I never ended up publishing them.  The first novel wasn't very large, picture 91 pages of 8.5 x 11 paper with a reasonable font size.  However, the sequel to that book, took on a life of it's own after I started writing it, and it ended up being 231 pages of 8.5 x 11 paper, with a smaller font size.  So yeah, when I get going sometime, I find it hard to stop!  ;D  Someday, I'm going to consolidate and combine the two books into one, and actually get them published.  And then there's the myriad of other book ideas I have planning just percolating in my head.... 

Dang!  I've got to find time to write again! (Maybe if I didn't spend so much time online in places like this!  ;)  )
Title: Re: Aspiring composer who would love to direct
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on March 01, 2008, 02:28:22 PM
Is there some way I could read the books you wrote?  ???  I would love to read them.
Title: Re: Aspiring composer who would love to direct
Post by: DILinator on March 01, 2008, 07:40:57 PM
Is there some way I could read the books you wrote?  ???  I would love to read them.

We should figure out a way for you to somehow.... Given what I know about you (granted, it's not much, but....) I think you would enjoy them.  They are written about a Church youth group, pretty much a bunch of fellow home-schoolers, but are action packed and quite exciting, as they follow the adventures and trials of the teens and young adults.  Remember that I wrote these books when I was in that age group as well, about 14 years ago now.  Boy!  Just saying that makes me feel old all of a sudden!   :D  I would definitely do a lot of re-working before I attempt to get them published now, mainly to streamline the stories and eliminate excess characters (that was one common comment about the books, especially the second one, was it was hard to keep track of all of the characters).  Still, I'd be interested in having somebody like yourself read them, and let me know what you think.  I will try and figure out a way to make that possible.... 
Title: Re: Aspiring composer who would love to direct
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on March 02, 2008, 02:11:34 PM
If you want I could send you some more information about me.  I would have some questions for you though.
Title: Re: Aspiring composer who would love to direct
Post by: DILinator on March 02, 2008, 09:46:24 PM
If you want I could send you some more information about me.  I would have some questions for you though.

Like: am I a serial killer?   ;)
Title: Re: Aspiring composer who would love to direct
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on March 03, 2008, 09:24:55 AM
Help, everyone, I'm being stalked by a serial killer.  Heeeeelllpppp.  Serious, just to be on the safe side.