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Title: my mini review
Post by: werebearxxx on July 01, 2010, 01:42:41 AM
do not presume that i know much about reviewing a movie. i don't consider myself to be a good writer.
but here is my opinion on the movie.

i enjoyed it very much. it was a solid movie all the way through. when i went into it, i thought that the choice of actors, excluding Dev Pattel, was gonna bring the movie down a lot. i was pleasantly surprised that i only cringed twice. the movie wasn't overly humorous which is a good thing. The story was fast. clean, and as always the directing was great.
what did i learn from this movie... same thing i ve learned over and over from Shyamalan's movies.....he is my favorite. i highly recommend this movie to any fan of the show.


p.s. the critics are terrible human beings and should be publicly stoned for all to see....all of em.
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: Kuzon on July 01, 2010, 01:57:12 AM
Thankyou ;)

Why isn't this forum sprouting with life again? ???
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: Rulm on July 01, 2010, 02:58:50 AM
Thankyou ;)

Why isn't this forum sprouting with life again? ???

Honestly, I think M. Night has lost a ton of fans lately. Disappointment after disappointment for those who have been holding out hope for a comeback.
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: Specter on July 01, 2010, 03:14:22 AM
I think that is a fair assessment.  I had a pretty horrible audience when I went to the movie.  One kid was distracting the whole time, and kept slapping himself in the leg or the head whenever characters said their names.  I think it's a fine movie.  It's not quite as epic as I had hoped, but it was good.

As for the forums, you're likely correct.  Not a lot of people have much respect for M. Night these days, and it appears that this movie isn't going to do him any favors.  I think another reason is that forums are quickly becoming a thing of the past with websites like this.  Things like facebook and twitter make it easy to just click to become part of something, and all people want to do is discuss what they're interested in and they don't really need to go searching very far for a place to do that anymore.
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: Wags on July 01, 2010, 03:24:11 AM
I'm gonna have to agree with you, Specter.  This movie isn't gonna do him many favors. 

It just didn't even feel like an M Night Shyamalan movie to me.  It just felt so....hollow.

But, as long as this site is still around, I'll keep poking my head in to give my 2 cents every now and then.
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: Specter on July 01, 2010, 03:45:47 AM
Just so I'm totally clear, I did enjoy the movie when I wasn't being distracted by the audience.  You to to a movie and pay $25 for 2 tickets and then have people all around you talking about how they hate Night before the movie begins, talk throughout the movie, and then after continue to LOUDLY talk about how they hate Night...

I know what you mean, though, about it not really feeling like a Night movie.  I felt like that with The Happening.  In many ways it had his visual style, but I also expect to have a spiritual element as well as a supernatural element.  The Happening was mostly supernatural while the spiritual fell flat.

With The Last Airbender, he as on rails, as the show is already a complete mythology. It is the perfect series for him, with both spiritual and supernatural elements in full bloom.  But it is based on the work of two others.  So while it had Night's visual flair, it also had other writers' influence.
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: werebearxxx on July 01, 2010, 10:10:09 AM
i think people just love to hate M. Night. This movie will not get its fair chance or the credit it deserves. It was a great movie...i just wish that the human race wasn't so shallow.
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: Specter on July 01, 2010, 10:38:32 AM
Yeah, I feel the same way.  I also noted that the movie totally diffused the "Zuko is a villain" argument.  Zuko is a conflicted young man whose only choice is to bring Aang to his father to regain his own honor.  He even rescues Aang, and has multiple chances to bring Aang home and regain his honor, but he is so conflicted that he never takes that chance.
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: gwags33 on July 01, 2010, 11:38:49 AM
HAHAHAHA I WENT TO THE MIDNIGHT SHOWING!!! i saw myself twice!! woooo... but jackson, i didnt see you when we were meditating...i was the last one on the last side lol.. my face was huge!!!

oh yea, btw the movie was terrible...i liked the happening better...if you didnt watch the show, you would be completely lost...and whats up with all the name changes?? TOTALLY STUPID!!!

and did anyone else notice a the race issue? EVERYONE IN THE SOUTHERN WATER TRIBE WERE ASIAN EXCEPT KATARA, SOKKA, AND THEIR GRANDMOTHER, hahahahahahaha!!!

FAIL!
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: moonrise on July 01, 2010, 11:48:04 AM
name changes???
why am i hearing about this now? how could i have misseed it before???

i'll judge the movie when i see it tomorrow - i'm NOT taking sides before i have even seen it!

hey gwags33, did the general audience seem to like it???
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: werebearxxx on July 01, 2010, 12:17:23 PM
i saw it last night as well. it got good crowd reactions everyone clapped afterward. i didn't hear any bad comments or anything.
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: Rohan on July 01, 2010, 01:34:41 PM
I agree with Specter on forums and sites like this are on the verge of going down lately since Facebook and twitter are taking over the net. I am running a page M.NIGHT FILMS and have lot of fans and discussions about M.Night movies, but honestly I love this site and forum. This can come alive again like before.

May be if there is new layout and lots of change in the front page so more people join us.

Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: gwags33 on July 01, 2010, 02:43:03 PM
name changes???
why am i hearing about this now? how could i have misseed it before???

i'll judge the movie when i see it tomorrow - i'm NOT taking sides before i have even seen it!

hey gwags33, did the general audience seem to like it???

everyone was pretty loud and not paying attention, no one clapped and at the end someone screamed " wow that sucked! I cant believe I waste 14 f****** dollars on that!"  i laughed...

yea the name changes were super annoying... and he missed major plots and themes throughout...and missed MAJOR CHARACTERS TOO!!!

the biggest being the kyoshi warriors? seriously, how could you cut them out!??
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: Imalshen on July 01, 2010, 03:30:42 PM
I think that is a fair assessment.  I had a pretty horrible audience when I went to the movie.  One kid was distracting the whole time, and kept slapping himself in the leg or the head whenever characters said their names.  I think it's a fine movie.  It's not quite as epic as I had hoped, but it was good.

As for the forums, you're likely correct.  Not a lot of people have much respect for M. Night these days, and it appears that this movie isn't going to do him any favors.  I think another reason is that forums are quickly becoming a thing of the past with websites like this.  Things like facebook and twitter make it easy to just click to become part of something, and all people want to do is discuss what they're interested in and they don't really need to go searching very far for a place to do that anymore.

We had a bad audience too. It's because they went with the international pronounciations. None of my friends noticed. I thought it was fine except for the idiots who laughed really loudly. I screamed at them pretty harshly-but after the show.

I personally thought it was very good-the script needed a little work and they did have to leave out a lot, but I expected that because it was an adaptation of a TV show and had to be condensed (And you have to admit, adaptations are NEVER as good as the original. Ever.). I thought the kids were very good, especially for Noah's first film, and I liked the way the ending was handled because it matched the way Aang acts toward killing in the end of the series. Things in the movie seemed more consistent than in the show, and I really liked that.

I also liked the fact that the effects were beautifully made, and the world created around it to seem other-worldly instead of trying for "realism" (CGI never looks real so stop trying, you know?). I also loved the spirit world. It looked amazing. And there were a lot of scenes and shots from the movie taken straight out of the TV show (not just the intro) and I thought that was a good homage to the original story.)

The truth is, like any adaptation, the people who are really going to enjoy it are 1. The people who have not seen the original and 2. The people who have, and know to expect a lot of changes and differences and go with it. Most of my friends have never seen the show, and then the handful who have, like me, kept up with the changes and were ready for them. So there was no disappointment there.

My only disappointment was in the rudeness of the audiences who destroyed the experience for everyone. I'm going to wait a few weeks for things to quiet down, then go see it again. I'll probably have a more in depth review of it then as well, but for now, I think everyone just needs to chill.
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: Imalshen on July 01, 2010, 07:01:39 PM
I am going to post a proper review, with everything I thought, good and bad, once I see the movie again, with a less distracting audience, and so I can give a clearer view on it. As of the moment I would not say it was a flawless film, but I think people do overlook the positives too often.
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: Wags on July 01, 2010, 11:22:12 PM
Here is my review, for those wanting to read it.


**SPOILERS**

I was not too big a fan of this movie. Although my initial distaste with it has faded a little bit since last night/this morning. 

I felt The Last Airbender suffered a bit from what happened to The Happening: the great ideas in the movie were underdeveloped, and were pushed aside for the sake of moving the story along at a breakneck speed.

For example, the movie mentioned quite a few times that Aang felt guilty about the death of the Air Nomads. This is what I understood to be one of the major emotional plot points of the movie. And I felt that that ending scene with the tidal wave, when he reflects on the Air Nomads he lived with, and then the scene following with everyone bowing and Aang bowing back, would have had a lot more depth and emotional power had they focused on this aspect of the movie a little more.  It just seemed like this was a pivotal idea in the movie, but it was just so underdeveloped that I only realized what a great idea it was way after I left the theatre.

I'm also going to have to side with some of the critics on this one when they say there is a ton of exposition.  Literally a few minutes after the prologue explained everything to us, we had Katara and Sokka's grandma telling us the exact same information, which essentially brought the exciting and brisk pace the movie had established to a grinding halt. 

Another thing I had an issue with was the bending.  The effects were great, don't get me wrong, but all the martial arts that went into the simplest of bending really seemed...well...goofy to me.  The show's bending seemed so natural, but it got to a point in the movie where I just wish they could just move the elements without the martial arts.  I also felt that the distant view and long takes of the bending and fighting, while much better than the irritating quick-cut approach to fight scenes Hollywood employs, also sort of took away from the impact of some scenes.  The prime example of this is when the Earth Benders rose up against the Fire Nation guards, it all happened so quick and in one take that the emotional power of the uprising was lost.

As far as the acting went...it was pretty good.  A few weak performances (Nicola Peltz comes to mind), but the strong ones seemed to counterbalance them.  Dev Patel, Aasif Mandvi, and Shaun Taub (sp?)  were definitely the strongest.  I loved Mandvi's portrayal of Zhao, forgoing the stereotypical tough and arrogant Commander that was in the show and instead opting to portray a weasly sort of guy who slowly unhinges as the movie progresses (made apparent by his wildish hair and twitchy eyes while he was killing the moon spirit; that was such a great scene. You could almost feel Zhao just reiterating ideas about the glory of the Fire Nation he had heard growing up when he was trying to convince Iroh (and himself) that it was ok to kill the Moon Spirit). 

All in all, I thought this movie was pretty good in some parts, but just terribly average as a whole.  The movie just felt like it was missing a soul, for lack of a better term.  I didn't really feel like I was watching an M Night Shyamalan movie, although there were occasional parts in the movie I felt were great.  And as much as I wish his first foray into this type of movie was all I hoped it would be (and yes, I did have big hopes for this movie), I have to say I can't wait for his return to smaller, more intimate movies.

In fact, having only seen the series once, I think I liked the scenes Night didn?t take from the show the most.  My favorite scenes from the movie were when Zuko asked that boy what he knew of the Fire Nation Prince, Zhao?s degrading speech about Zuko (?a child wearing a costume??ouch), the Earth Kingdom man betraying Aang for money, and Aang finally accepting his role as the Avatar and bowing to the people, although he looked absolutely terrified doing so.

Oh, and as for James Newton Howard?s score?amazing as usual.

So, all in all, I thought the movie was definitely lacking in many places, but there were these strands of a great movie that showed up every now and then. I just wish they were explored more deeply. 

OVERALL: 5/10
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: Rulm on July 02, 2010, 01:16:35 PM
If a movie has a terrible crowd, it's usually because it's not holding their attention. In other words, the movie sucks.
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: moonrise on July 02, 2010, 03:07:00 PM
i saw the movie a few hours ago and it had its flaws but it had strong points as well
i must admit that the movie theater i went to, well, it was almost empty...
(but it was the first showing of the day and in the morning so i don't know...)
i'll fully review it later...
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: Rohan on July 02, 2010, 05:51:32 PM
i saw the movie a few hours ago and it had its flaws but it had strong points as well
i must admit that the movie theater i went to, well, it was almost empty...
(but it was the first showing of the day and in the morning so i don't know...)
i'll fully review it later...

Not too many people watch movies in the morning. They rather sit back and enjoy the morning news or drink coffee while driving. Specially if you live in the US. :-)
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: moonrise on July 02, 2010, 05:59:34 PM
hehe, that's the idea
after barely getting seats in cameron's avatar, i prefer to avoid the traffic jams  ;D

the problem is, i don't know WHAT to think of it
there was something wrong with it, something missing in it, but i can't figure out what
i'll see it again sometime later and review it
right now, i'm kinda confused with myself and how events are turning out...
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: Dr.Hill42 on July 03, 2010, 01:43:30 AM
Ok so I have a few quick ideas about the viewing of The Last Airbender and how people come away with it. They are a bit complicated to me so let me see how I can spew them out. I saw the film tonight and was actually quite pleased with what I came out with. I think that the story Night wanted to tell, by the way the story was written for the screen, portrayed a message not unlike that of the television series. I feel that any beef a very hardcore fan of the series might have with the film comes out of the plot, or the way the story weaves in and out of certain moments from the series these fans might feel are pivotal, or atleast entertaining and memorable. I definately recognized them having seen the series multiple times but excused them since I am not such a die hard fan of the "Avatarverse". Although I agree a bit more time could have been allowed for the duration of the film (which would have fixed many of the minor editing 'blemishes' I winced upon) I give credit to the fact that this wasn't just The Lord of The Rings and that it seemed to seek a younger audience with possibly a shorter attention span but also possibly more benificiary to the message portrayed by the series (and the film). And this is the point I wish to come to. I left the film with a sense of purpose. A sense of responsibility. A sense of entitlement to my life and the decisions I make. And a sense of being able to effect a small radius of change. I left the theatre wanting to abandon my car, walk home, and only utilize my bicycle for transportation for the rest of my life. I think the environmental aspect of The Happening can definately be seen transitioning through to The Last Airbender. And at any rate I feel that Night's vision for developing a lasting effect on the audience has improved. To this day I still drive on the highway and look at random spattering of trees and long prarie grasses and think of the awesome power of Mother Nature, and how fragile I am (and trust me, I did not like The Happening...at all...much.) I saw the last showing of The Last Airbender at a local theater and left with a large half moon in the sky. All I could think about was how magestic the world we live in must be, to be adaptive and yet dependent on such beautiful yet "unconscious" things. Another theme I felt Night clung to well in his version of the story was the play on diversity. Aesthetically, I enjoyed the costuming of the seperated nations and thought that this played well in the the side of Night's vision for a diverse cast and the escapism of the "avatarverse". A smaller world of four nations excentuates to the importance of unity and helps to guide the reality of a world with hundreds of nations by developing the unity of four. The parallels of industry to naturalism and spirituality cannot be missed, nor the the play on race within nationalism. Although the acting of the children playing some very iconic roles may seem forced at times I felt that the direction of the film really brought out the greater points the series has to offer and that these points might go a long way within our own world through the medium they were portrayed (a movie directed towards children, not fans of an anime series). A short conclusion I know, but I remember saying I had a few quick ideas...and these are anything but.
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: PriestRevan on July 03, 2010, 01:52:50 AM
@Dr. Hill

I think people have forgotten that this movie was made as an original story based off of an original story (and I sort of wish they would've said something earlier).

In the best way possible, it's like fanfiction for the big screen.
Title: Re: my mini review
Post by: Imalshen on September 21, 2010, 10:57:05 PM
Fanfiction for the big screen. lol That's what I call the pathetic new Star Trek film. *throws up*