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Title: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Rabid-Merc on July 04, 2010, 12:23:17 AM
     I actually don't think A:TLA is the worst movie ever. I loved this movie, it's one of M. Night's best. I think it's hilarious that everyone has said that about all of M. Night's movies. Um, seriously? Go watch some recent Steven Seagal movies, I dare you to tell me those are better than M. Night's movies. That just shows how little credibility all those "critics" possess and should be discounted completely.

     At least realize what worst movie ever really means. The worst possible movie in existence? It's really pathetic that all these same "critics" can think of no other movie that is actually horrible. A: TLA should be viewed as an interpretation of the source material, not an exact replica considering book 1 is a season, and not a mini-series. Everyone is crying about the same 2 differences, the pronunciation of names and everything regarding the characters. Oh wow, big deal. Take those 2 complaints away, all those negative reviews don't have substance anymore. Funny how that works out.

     I think everybody has a subliminal racist outlook towards M. Night. Everyone is also extremely critical of all his movies, maybe even a little jealously from the paid critics. All the garbage movies (for example) transformers, get praise and passing grades. What's wrong with transformers, you ask? The question is: What isn't wrong with transformers? 5 word review for transformers: Garbage, Pathetic, Ridiculous, Aggravating, Refund. Good thing I only paid for the 1st transformers, the 2nd one was nothing but kiddie nonsense. Kept hoping that shia la bish was gonnna get shot in the head.

     Any flaws with any other movies are always given the benefit of the doubt. You either hear few mentions of said flaw or none at all, everyone moves on. This apparently doesn't apply to M. Night movie's, of course not, what was I thinking. You hear nothing but hatred for weeks on end that his movies suck and are horrible. What's the difference? I'm really not sure. Do M. Night movies make you think and use your brain for once? Are M. Night's movies a different style and everyone closes their minds? M. Night has dark skin, therefore he's a failure as a director? What, only light skinned directors can create works of art?

     Where were all the trekkies crying foul about the Star Trek reboot, effectively wiping out the entire Star Trek universe. I never heard any of that, except for praise that it's the best Star Trek movie. How about the LOTR movies? Was every single minute detail from the books part of each movie? Highly doubtful, where was all the hatred for that director? Uh, it's not identical, off with his head. C'mon now...

     People: it's getting pretty pathetic each time all of you start crying. Wah, it sucks, wah. If something is that bad, what spend a single minute longer on the topic? How about just go away? Does crying making you feel better? Seriously I want to know, I'm sure M. Night would also like to know. I'm fairly certain if word spread M. Night secretly bleaches his skin, he'll suddenly turn into a stellar director over-night. It seems to me that everyone thinks it's cool to make fun of M. Night movies. All of you iSheep need to start thinking for yourselves and soon.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: PriestRevan on July 04, 2010, 12:30:54 AM
I dunno, as far as calling it the worst movie ever, I wouldn't go that far. I thought the movie "Shorts" was just horrendous.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Rulm on July 04, 2010, 04:33:15 AM
Maybe not THE worst, but the movie ranks among the worst ... :-X
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: werebearxxx on July 04, 2010, 10:24:04 AM
if someone actually thinks that The Last Airbender is one of the worst movies ever, they haven't seen many movies.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: PriestRevan on July 04, 2010, 10:34:40 AM
if someone actually thinks that The Last Airbender is one of the worst movies ever, they haven't seen many movies.

*cough*Sharkboyandlavagirl*cough*

I'm trying not to attack Robert Rodriguez, because he's done some okay films, but my God, half his movies are just so... awful.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: mnightfan4lyfe on July 04, 2010, 11:14:50 AM
What bothers me the most is how the critics have seemed all too eager to trash TLA even before it came out. All the ?racebending? stories and such. Then they write horrible reviews tearing the entire movie apart in a way they don?t seem to do with other movies. Not only the movie itself, but so many of the nasty reviews I read trash Night too  >:( I really liked TLA even though I?ve never seen the Nickelodeon series. Is it perfect, no. But what movie is?? I have trouble thinking of any, even among my all time favorites. As much as I enjoyed it, I would have liked some more development of the main characters. Maybe that would have happened if it was 20 minutes longer. I don't know... But overall, terrible isn?t a word I?d ever use about it. There was so much I loved about it. When the other ?Avatar? came out, I don?t recall the critics being anywhere near as harsh. It was all "James Cameron is the best filmmaker ever" type of stuff. Yeah, I thought Avatar was a good movie, but the dialogue was ?iffy? at times, I knew almost nothing about Jake prior to his arrival in Pandora, his speech to the Na?vi was a total Braveheart scene rip off and the entire storyline of Jake, Neytiri and her family was basically Pocahontas. Did they mention all that? No.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Rabid-Merc on July 04, 2010, 11:32:21 AM
I don't know about you guys, but i'm going to watch it again at the theater. I have never done that before. I feel I have to with A: TLA, damn critics. I gotta show my support for M. Night.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Cleveland Heep on July 04, 2010, 12:52:14 PM
if someone actually thinks that The Last Airbender is one of the worst movies ever, they haven't seen many movies.

You're right. This is the first movie these critics have seen in years.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: kamalia on July 04, 2010, 01:11:22 PM
Ok, so I'm one of those superfans, I dont care if I've watched the every book 500, every episode 500 times over.  The movie, to be honestly cheezy, a tear ran down my cheek, I was so excited to watch this movie.  Obviously I respect the interpretation that was taken on the cartoon, just wish a tad bit more of the story would have been incorporated into the movie, for example the Kyoshi warriors, think they should have a at least a small part in the movie instead of completely keeping them out and a more happier Aang.  Let's see, OH, the main Avatar states, such as the water spirit in the cartoon he turned into that huge "fish", or when he goes into the spirit world, would have been cool if he was talking to Avatar Roku instead of the dragon...the story line DID seem a bit choppy here n there, you can definitely notice where a part of each episode started and ended throughout the movie. Also, I understand that the storyline was a bit more somber than the cartoon since in the end it leads to the war, but the great thing about it starting off on the light hearted side a bit, is that you see the characters grow and their relationship with ea other is their own lil support group. Plus, they understand from the beginning the  seriousness of whats to come. (that was random but hope it made some sort of sense) I guess my point is...again...wish it was closer to the cartoon story.  Overall, if you're a TRUE fan of the cartoon, you're able to look past things like that.  I know I did a little complaining BUT I absolutely was thrilled that this movie came out and can't wait til Book 2 and 3 come out.  
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: PriestRevan on July 04, 2010, 01:54:33 PM
Critics don't represent everyone. The final say is up to you.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Imalshen on July 04, 2010, 02:20:15 PM
lol Trust me. The Twilight movies and the Star Wars prequels are far worse. And I've seen even worse than those.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Rabid-Merc on July 04, 2010, 03:47:56 PM
Well that's my point guys. How can it be that bad? It's impossible considering there are so many more movies that are horrible beyond compare. I'm talking about paid critics and self-proclaimed critics. You know, all the people that claim to know everything about movies. I love how everybody thinks they can critique acting, etc, even though they aren't in those professions xD

My other point is all those people giving negative reviews have no idea what they're talking about. All the negativity towards M. Night's recent movie proves my theory. I'm just irritated I have to jump to M. Night's side each time he releases a new movie. Trying to bash everybody's ignorance and closed-minded outlook is a never ending battle.

Oh wow, i can't wait until A:TLA hits the UK. M. Night is gonna make ungodly money compared to over here in the states.    ;D   I think i'm going to buy the game as well.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Imalshen on July 04, 2010, 05:29:12 PM
I know what you mean. It's ridiculous, how much time people spend trying to make you argue with them.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Rulm on July 05, 2010, 02:18:12 PM
The movie's only redeeming qualities are it's soundtrack and decent effects. It has a few nice action scenes, but most are so stale.

Everything else about the movie doesn't work! I'm flabbergasted people would actually defend this film. I know we're all fans of M. Night, and some of us fans of the show, but that doesn't mean we're forced to enjoy something we would trash if it were created by someone else with the same quality. The movie has an absolutely terrible script, so many plot holes, so much exposition (broke the filmmaking rule of "show-don't-tell"), horrible acting, head-spinning pacing, mostly stale action scenes, awkward camera shots, atrocious dialogue, complete lack of character development, and is one of the worst ADAPTIONS ever -- there was no respect for the subject matter. He changed so many things! And much of the time it makes no sense! The worst part is that he can't admit he made a terrible movie. That's a bad sign. Even Michael Bay admitted Revenge of the Fallen had serious flaws. M. Night didn't think everything through. The movie's a completely murky, heartless film. All this leads to the biggest cinematic sin: Boredom.

Did he want it to come out that way? I doubt it, but of course M. Night could do no wrong. *Sarcasm.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Specter on July 05, 2010, 04:10:57 PM
Rulm: The simple fact is that film is an art form and being that it is, all rules are made to be broken, and people are free to enjoy it just as much as you are free to hate it.  If you want to hate it, no one is going to stop you.  If someone loves it, it's not our job to call them whatever ignoble term we come up with.  While there is room for lots and lots of improvement, people are walking away from it satisfied.  It just depends, I guess, how forgiving you are, or if you're looking at it as entertainment before getting critical or cynical about it.

People are defending it because they found something to value in it.  No one is sticking a gun to their heads and forcing them to do so.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: PriestRevan on July 05, 2010, 04:41:34 PM
The movie's only redeeming qualities are it's soundtrack and decent effects. It has a few nice action scenes, but most are so stale.

Everything else about the movie doesn't work! I'm flabbergasted people would actually defend this film. I know we're all fans of M. Night, and some of us fans of the show, but that doesn't mean we're forced to enjoy something we would trash if it were created by someone else with the same quality. The movie has an absolutely terrible script, so many plot holes, so much exposition (broke the filmmaking rule of "show-don't-tell"), horrible acting, head-spinning pacing, mostly stale action scenes, awkward camera shots, atrocious dialogue, complete lack of character development, and is one of the worst ADAPTIONS ever -- there was no respect for the subject matter. He changed so many things! And much of the time it makes no sense! The worst part is that he can't admit he made a terrible movie. That's a bad sign. Even Michael Bay admitted Revenge of the Fallen had serious flaws. M. Night didn't think everything through. The movie's a completely murky, heartless film. All this leads to the biggest cinematic sin: Boredom.

Did he want it to come out that way? I doubt it, but of course M. Night could do no wrong. *Sarcasm.

It's not that we have to enjoy the film, but if someone does, then they do. You can't change that.

I mean, the fact is, "The Room" is probably one of the worst films of all time, but there has to be at least one person out there who likes it. While on the other hand, "The Godfather" is considered one of the greatest movies of all time (and it's sequel), but I know people who don't like it.

It really isn't a matter of "best" or "worst"... it's just whether or not you like it.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Imalshen on July 05, 2010, 05:22:54 PM
True, that. What's "The Room"?
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: mnightfan4lyfe on July 05, 2010, 09:03:26 PM
Has anyone seen it more than once? If so, did you like it more or less the second time?
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: PriestRevan on July 05, 2010, 09:43:00 PM
Has anyone seen it more than once? If so, did you like it more or less the second time?

Is it really possible to like a movie more the second time? I mean, not to say it isn't possible, but once you've seen the movie, there's no surprise or anything.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Imalshen on July 05, 2010, 09:51:32 PM
Many movies grew on me as time went on, and this one wasn't a devastating blow to me in the first place. I am going to see it again once the crowds die down, and I will have a nice detailed review of it then for you guys.  ;)
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Rulm on July 06, 2010, 03:14:39 AM
Yeah, I apologize for freaking out on you all like that, lol. But I'm just so shocked by how bad the movie is (imo).  :-\

But yeah, you're all welcome to share your opinions, of course.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Imalshen on July 06, 2010, 09:56:50 AM
Hehe, no worries. :D

You know what's really funny? There's a post in the LITW forum also called "Worst movie ever." People really have differing opinions. LITW is my all time favorite film.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: gwags33 on July 06, 2010, 01:59:58 PM
it def wasnt the worst movie ever, but with such an amazing show... i think the real life adaption could have been much better...not saying i could have done better, but still...

i know how you guys feel as mnight superfans... i like taylor swift's face and when haters call her ugly it makes me super mad!!! she looks like an angel..does she not ;)!!?
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Imalshen on July 06, 2010, 06:14:25 PM
She looks like my friend Ashley. Both are lovely ladies. Who called Taylor ugly? They need eye transplants.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Namaste on July 06, 2010, 11:02:59 PM
I think the ending was drawn too far from the original spirit of the series. Half of the whole second season consists of Aang dealing with his feelings about the way he acted in his Avatar state in the northern water tribe. It will change a lot for the second movie, but it also provides a way to cut out all that long, dawn-out coming to terms with his power by having him skip it altogether (saves time in movie number 2) I also didn't like the mispronunciation of a lot of the names. I wish the classic avatar humor had not been cut out of the film altogether, and I would like to have had more time spent on Zuko and (especially) Iroh.

That being said, the cinematography and music were beautiful. The stunts were well-coordinated, and the emotions were portrayed powerfully - from Zuko's frustration and embarrassment to Aang's childish rage, Sokka's bravado, to Katara's invincible hope. The climax was very moving and the ending is inspiring. Not all of Shyamalan's best qualities shine through, but it was a good movie overall.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Imalshen on July 07, 2010, 12:53:17 AM
I actually liked the way the ending was handled; I thought it was more in the spirit of the Avatar than a crazed rampage, though I see your point.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: PriestRevan on July 07, 2010, 03:58:57 PM
Do "made for television" or "straight to video" movies count in this "worst movie ever" category, 'cause "Secret of NIMH 2" and "Out of Jimmy's Head" was pretty awful.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Imalshen on July 07, 2010, 06:28:28 PM
Nimh creeped me out beyond reason, and I watched it the first time when I was 19 years old. lol I never made it to 2.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Namaste on July 15, 2010, 01:43:58 PM
Has anyone seen it more than once? If so, did you like it more or less the second time?

Is it really possible to like a movie more the second time? I mean, not to say it isn't possible, but once you've seen the movie, there's no surprise or anything.

lol priest, are u really a shyamalan fan?
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Namaste on July 15, 2010, 01:45:46 PM
Hehe, no worries. :D

You know what's really funny? There's a post in the LITW forum also called "Worst movie ever." People really have differing opinions. LITW is my all time favorite film.

Yeah I know, I still need to reply to a post on that thread. there's probably one in The Happening too
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Imalshen on July 15, 2010, 03:17:46 PM
Yeah, I stopped trying to get people to discuss Lady with me and just link them to the essay I wrote. That essay has converted about a dozen haters.

So my Airbender review is about 7 pages single spaced so I did not have time to condense before I left for England (hellooo from the UK!) but I do think I can say one thing I've observed: The problem isn't that the movie is bad; the problem is it's not what people were wanting. That's really all I can pin it to since non show fans loved it, kids loved it, etc. The people I know who didn't like it were expecting a more grown-up, epic style movie, and that's what led to their disappointment...as is usual.

I'll never say this movie was one of Shyamalan's greats but I think as a kid's movie I've seen a LOT worse. lol

I have a lot of likes/dislikes in my review I'll address later this millenium.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Namaste on July 15, 2010, 11:20:21 PM
that's always the biggest problem with Shyamalan movies. "it wasn't what I was expecting" and so many people just can't get past that to see it for what it is: a masterful work of art that would only be cheapened by having it explained for you.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Imalshen on July 17, 2010, 05:43:39 PM
I know. Always go into movies, HIS especially, expecting nothing. Completely blank. Then what he's trying to paint for you won't be sullied by pre-imagined image.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: PriestRevan on July 23, 2010, 06:04:24 PM
Has anyone seen it more than once? If so, did you like it more or less the second time?

Is it really possible to like a movie more the second time? I mean, not to say it isn't possible, but once you've seen the movie, there's no surprise or anything.

lol priest, are u really a shyamalan fan?

Yes. Why do you ask?
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Namaste on July 28, 2010, 01:12:35 AM
Well, i suppose you only like Shyamalan because his movies surprise you at the end... For anyone who knows anything about film, a Shyamalan work cannot possibly be fully appreciated the first time through.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Imalshen on July 28, 2010, 10:20:19 AM
Indeed. Twists are fun, but they're kinda overrated because they only work the first time. It's the meat of the movie itself that's the key.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: PriestRevan on August 04, 2010, 12:20:33 PM
Well, i suppose you only like Shyamalan because his movies surprise you at the end... For anyone who knows anything about film, a Shyamalan work cannot possibly be fully appreciated the first time through.

What? I never said I liked his movies for the twists. I just like his movies, I dunno why.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Imalshen on August 04, 2010, 05:00:07 PM
I like the intricacies of his films. And you always see something else when you watch them that you didn't notice before.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: marco on August 06, 2010, 12:08:47 PM
And you always see something else when you watch them that you didn't notice before.


I remember the first time I realised the true meaning of a particular shot from The 6th Sense: it was the 5th,if not 6th time I was watching it,then I suddenly understood the hidden message (I'm talking about the unusually long shot of Cole's handprint on the table in the kitchen,when the mother finds out that all shelves are open).I miss these trademarks.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Imalshen on August 14, 2010, 01:40:02 AM
Yeah, I liked that one. I'm very silly because when I'm watching a movie I may or may not wear glasses, but I never watch one of his without them, for fear of missing a new detail.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Rohan on August 14, 2010, 02:12:18 AM
Rulm: The simple fact is that film is an art form and being that it is, all rules are made to be broken, and people are free to enjoy it just as much as you are free to hate it.  If you want to hate it, no one is going to stop you.  If someone loves it, it's not our job to call them whatever ignoble term we come up with.  While there is room for lots and lots of improvement, people are walking away from it satisfied.  It just depends, I guess, how forgiving you are, or if you're looking at it as entertainment before getting critical or cynical about it.

People are defending it because they found something to value in it.  No one is sticking a gun to their heads and forcing them to do so.

Well said and I agree.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Namaste on August 17, 2010, 12:01:02 AM
Here's a worse film than TLAB. I give you, Sharktopus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK2bBfuepKk
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Imalshen on August 17, 2010, 10:22:25 AM
Hahaha! WTF is that!?!?!

Man, they'll make ANYTHING into movies/TV these days.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Rohan on August 18, 2010, 11:17:04 PM
Here's a worse film than TLAB. I give you, Sharktopus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK2bBfuepKk

This is classic  ;D - You are awesome, man.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: Namaste on August 18, 2010, 11:41:06 PM
;D

and how bout this new movie: Pirhana? come on, people...
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: marco on August 19, 2010, 07:41:47 AM
Here's a worse film than TLAB. I give you, Sharktopus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK2bBfuepKk

Wow,I haven't seen The Last Airbender yet,but I think I can trust you,lol.
Title: Re: Worst movie ever ???
Post by: arjaybee on September 09, 2010, 06:08:39 PM
I posted this on the Facebook page but it sums up my feelings about 'The Last Airbender' so I will cut and paste it here:

Look, I understand alot of the critical bashing this film is getting from the fans of the animated series...yes, there should have been continuity with the series as far as the pronuciation of character names...yes, there should have been more character development between Sokka, Katara and Aang (and Appa for that matter) and yes, something seemed missing...a certain spark...the movie was flat overall, but it wasn't as bad as all the bandwagon haters are making it out to be...I liked this film better than either of the Narnia movies...I liked this film better than the first Harry Potter movie and it is M.Night's 3rd or 4th best film (which isn't saying much given his last few movies before Airbender)...it was flat like 'The Phantom Menace' was flat or 'Iron Man 2'...it was downright good compared to "Transformers 2" and "Spiderman 3"!  I understand that as a fan of the animated series we all hoped for much more, but M.Night's take on this isn't a deal breaker...the movies can be saved. The Potter series has used multiple directors.  M. Night's original screenplay was a 7 hour movie that threw in most of the major plot points of season 1, but you either had to do this series Harry Potter style and make each season of the show two 2 hour movies (for a total of six films which is the route Paramount should have gone) or you get what we got which is condensing a 20 episode season into one movie running an 1 hr and 40 mins.  Translating all of season 1 of the animated series into one live action film was a daunting task that should have been left to more capable hands, but I thought M.Night did a respectible job...it certainly can be salvaged as a movie series and it certainly isn't the worst movie of all-time as most are making it out to be.  Expectations were high and M.Night hasn't lived up to high expectations since 'Unbreakable' but 'The Last Airbender' is over $250 million worldwide so we haven't seen the last of the movie version of the beloved animated series.