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Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: gonch on November 26, 2004, 01:28:46 PM
 I never got it. Why did critics didn?t like it? It?s a brilliant movie, in my opinion.

Yeah, yeah, maybe the ending wasn?t that surprising. But, i already knew the ending when i went to watch this movie, and i still loved it.

I just think it?s unfair...very unfair...

The story is great, the ating is even better (Bryce Hallas Howard is an amazing actress...) and it?s just a brilliant film!

So...why do you think that the critics didn?t like it? I never trusted the critics, but this is just ridiculous! :angry:

 
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Specter on November 26, 2004, 01:30:47 PM
 It's mainly because critics tend to always compare this to other movies, not only the director's other movies, but to other movies in general.  If they started to look at a movie based on it's OWN merits, it might have gotten much better reviews from the critics.
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Sakamoto on November 26, 2004, 11:13:37 PM
 That's true, but isn't that what most viewers do automatically? I do it, not on purpose but I do, even though I tend to like most movies anyway. I still notice the similiarities and differences with other films. I also knew the ending before I saw it (just today) and it's still one of my favourite movies of all-time.
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: gonch on November 27, 2004, 06:43:58 AM
 Yes, each time we see a movie, we compare it to other movies. But even if it isn?t as good as those other movies, we tend to like it (or hate it) based on it?s own merith.

But the critics don?t do that. They think that a movie has to be better than it?s predecessors, or else it sucks.

Critics think they?re a gift for film-makers, but.....well....they?re not <_< .
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Witch King on December 05, 2004, 03:57:13 AM
QUOTE (gonch @ Nov 26 2004, 08:28 PM)
I never got it. Why did critics didn?t like it? It?s a brilliant movie, in my opinion.

Yeah, yeah, maybe the ending wasn?t that surprising. But, i already knew the ending when i went to watch this movie, and i still loved it.

I just think it?s unfair...very unfair...

The story is great, the ating is even better (Bryce Hallas Howard is an amazing actress...) and it?s just a brilliant film!

So...why do you think that the critics didn?t like it? I never trusted the critics, but this is just ridiculous! :angry: [/quote]
 They didn't like it?? :huh: Realy?!? :blink:

All reviews over here (Poland) were naming this movie a masterpiece: acting, music, camera-work... everything. All TV stations were showing interviews, special reports and other stuff for 2 weeks about the movie... madness only comperable with ROTK's release.
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: gonch on December 06, 2004, 01:13:57 PM
 Well, in here (Portugal) the critics didn?t like it (*grabs a pitchfork*). They said that the ending was a BIG disapointement. They also expeced much more from the acting ( :o ) and they just thought the story was boring ( :blink: ).

There was only one critic who lliked it. Actually, he loved it. Said it was one of the greatest stories ever told...but appart from him....
 
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: afi_village on June 11, 2005, 03:00:09 AM
 i don't know why critics didn't like it.  but i think it had something to do with the adds that hyped it up as a really horror monster film, when it really wasn't.  

one reveiw here in australia said that it should have been 10 minutes shorter!  which i just do not get, i love the ending and i always cry for at least ten minutes when it's over.

pkk
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Azi on June 19, 2005, 09:29:42 AM
 People expected scary. People wanted scary. People didn't get scary. And that's why it wasn't taken well. It was a human suspense drama when people suspected the thinking man's horror film. Just a case of bad luck, I guess.

>Azi  
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Villagelover on August 28, 2005, 07:09:02 PM
 Greetings M. Night Fans,


Im new to the boards and I love M. Nights movies and especially the Village. My opinion of the critics is simple: When I originially saw the Village I hated it because I was soo disappointed...but later when it came out on dvd i watched it again and I absolutley LOVED it!!!! The story and psychological trip M. night takes you on this film is absolutley brilliant. Plus the acting, the music, it was all great AND it did pretty good in the box office.

The critics were like everybody disappointed by the outcome of the story, but after m. Nights previous films people should remember ITS M.NIGHT FOR GODS SAKE!!! He always gives us what we dont expect.

Secondly, to heck with the critics. look how they torpedo bombed Mel Gibson's movie about Christ. And how did it do??????

I rest my case
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: afi_village on September 06, 2005, 02:07:08 AM
 that's really interesting.  what didn't you like about the outcome at first?

pkk

 
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: firesage on November 12, 2005, 03:22:25 PM
QUOTE (Azi @ Jun 19 2005, 09:29 AM)
People expected scary. People wanted scary. People didn't get scary. And that's why it wasn't taken well. It was a human suspense drama when people suspected the thinking man's horror film. Just a case of bad luck, I guess.

>Azi [/quote]
 Haha my friend was scared of that movie. Especially when the monster appeared in the woods. I thought it was funny, mostly because the movie was so predictable. As to why the critics didn't like it, I don't know. I thought the movie was pretty good. It wasn't a masterpiece, or at least it wasn't by my standards, but it was very good. Honestly I like the Sixth Sense better, because he presents the story in a better way. You can identify with the characters more, you can feel what they're feeling better, just little things like that. Perhaps I like the Sixth Sense better because I can identify with the story better than I could the Village.
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Dr.Hill42 on December 26, 2005, 12:16:43 AM
 You can't go into a Night movie with expectations...except the expectation of the unexpected...which is a whole different story.  
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: DeadVegas on January 03, 2006, 08:43:15 PM
 A better question is, why the hell do we even have critics?
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Dr.Hill42 on January 03, 2006, 10:36:44 PM
 Because the lazy people need to rely on other things to tell them what is good and what is not...or so it seems to me...kinda sucks huh?
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: G3xmeister on July 16, 2006, 09:28:49 AM
 I agree with afi Village, I think it was because people thought it was gonna be a horror-movie. But it's still one of my favourite movies, even though my friends mock me for it!
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: leelee on July 16, 2006, 12:03:35 PM
 not all the critics hated it. I remember Peter Travers of Rolling Stone and Richard Roeper loved it.  :)  
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Wags on July 17, 2006, 12:35:22 AM
 I dont trust Rolling Stone anymore.  They are the most hypocritical reviewers.  Sure, they raved about The Village, but then (in early January), it was right there on their "Worst Films of 2004" list.
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: MNightFan430 on July 17, 2006, 08:13:05 PM
 WAGS!!!  I'm sorry but I can't send messeges to you!  It keeps saying Mail Error.  So that's why I haven't got a hold of you, I'm sorry!
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: myfamlovesnight on July 22, 2006, 09:20:11 PM
 The Village is one of my favorite movies.  I seldom agree with the critics.  I really wonder why they have stopped thinking.  
I thought after I saw it once I might not enjoy it again because I "knew" , but the movie isn't really about the scary- its about the people and their relationships.  I love the little things that are going on, like the not touching.  It is a wonderful movie that teaches about many things.
Title: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: SexualSuspect on July 23, 2006, 09:47:57 PM
 critics hated it I think based on the previews and trailers
They were expecting another "horror" thriller, like the sixth sense or signs and they missed the point of it being a love story.

I fight with everyone i know about the BRILLIANCE of this movie
wtv ppl are sheep
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Rulm on December 18, 2007, 03:12:45 AM
There are many reasons why critics didn't like this movie, but I really don't want to get into it right now or it'll start another intense debate like the Lady in the Water "Worst Movie Ever" thread. BUT. It was not all that bad, and THAT I will go into. The reason The Village wasn't terrible was because of the characters. The relationships between them were well written and acted out. For most films, this is enough to keep the movie afloat, and I believe The Village was "floating" because of this. If the characters were not like this...The movie would have "sunk", because there was not much else to keep it afloat...And I will stop now... ;)
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on December 18, 2007, 10:07:18 AM
I can't really think of anything bad about this movie, I love it!!!  Still, I think one of the reasons the critics didn't like it was because it took the idea of isolating yourself from society in an attempt to get away from sin, and showed that it wasn't possible, there were other things they didn't like, they didn't like the ending, even though it made sense if you actually paid attention during the movie instead of just looking for things to criticize.  The elders have created this village and lived in it for 20-30 years, their not just going to give it up and go back.  Therefore at the end when it became possible for them to continue they will.  I personally think though, that once Lucius was back on his feet, he and Ivy would soon find go to the towns, and things would begin to fall apart.  Has anyone seen Ratatouille, it has a great scene near the end, talking about critics.  You should check it out, good film too.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Rulm on December 18, 2007, 03:36:59 PM
I'm not going to argue about what I  (or critics) did not like it, but I did LOVE Ratatouille! It's my favorite movie this year!  ;D
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on December 19, 2007, 10:01:21 AM
Yea, superb movie, I just thought it had an interesting scene towards the end talking about critics and their position.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Rulm on December 19, 2007, 03:05:33 PM
Yea, superb movie, I just thought it had an interesting scene towards the end talking about critics and their position.

Yeah, I really liked that scene. I thought it was done skillfully and with maturity.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on December 20, 2007, 09:52:54 AM
Yep, I agree, allright, back to The Village and the critics.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on January 04, 2008, 02:00:28 PM
I had tickets to see LITW the day before it actually came out!  YIPPIE!  Right before they started the film a man came out and started speaking to the audiance.  "Thanks for coming, blah, blah, blah."  Then he went on to say "Hopefully this is better than his last film The Village." 
I WAS LIKE WHAT THE HECK!!!!????!?!?!?!?!?  Are you nuts!??!?!?  The audience seemed to agree.  The lady 2 seats over was like "Yeah, I agree". I said "What?  No way." "THE VILLAGE WAS AWESOME!" 

Whoever the man was introducing LITW shouldnt have had that job!  I dont care what movie it is, dont diss the man's last film!  Im sure if it would have been Spielberg's film or Martin Scor. that would have never happened!  Sheesh!  Now Im just getting rowled up!  Gosh!
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 05, 2008, 12:03:16 PM
Yea, I agree with you, they shouldn't send someone out there just to bring down the man who created the movie you are about to watch.  It's too bad that some people just never will like him or his films.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: werebearxxx on January 06, 2008, 01:11:32 AM
i will tell you the reason why critics didnt like the village.....

CRITICS ARE MIDDLE-AGED, AROGENT, CINICLE, LONELY IDIOTS, WHOSE LIVES ARE REDUCED TO BASHING OTHER PEOPLES IDEAS WHO ARE ORIGINAL AND MEANINGFUL.

side note....
Scooby Doo 2 got better reviews than Man on Fire....
what a stupid bunch of losers.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on January 06, 2008, 03:48:19 PM
i will tell you the reason why critics didnt like the village.....

CRITICS ARE MIDDLE-AGED, AROGENT, CINICLE, LONELY IDIOTS, WHOSE LIVES ARE REDUCED TO BASHING OTHER PEOPLES IDEAS WHO ARE ORIGINAL AND MEANINGFUL.

side note....
Scooby Doo 2 got better reviews than Man on Fire....
what a stupid bunch of losers.

WOW!  Completely AMAZING response werebearxxx!!!!!  Your response reminded me of the film critic in LITW!!!!  HAHA!!!  I cant remember his name or his famous line at the end, but LOVE IT!!!!! 

Critics want nothing but movies that make no sense (period).  When it comes to any action film they automatically think its junk!  Anything by Tony Scott, Michael Bay, or M. Night, (practically anything that doesnt involve character development, an action sequence, or a fictional character (narf), is certainly out of the question for them).  They think its mindless.  If a woman's dress is blue instead of red and it doesnt stand for some sort of symbolysim, or make them think, they think the movie is mindless and boring.  Although, (you critics) if you notice, the only films that make the 'big bucks' are the ones that the 'regualr people' want to see.  Check Netflix's Top 100 for Pet's Sake!  Even though Night's movies should be higher on the list, it still makes my point!
Thanks for the response werebearxxx!!!!!  Keep them up! ;D  I cant believe SD2 got better reviews than MOF?????  What the heck???  Shaggy's green shirt must have had some sort of symbolysim.  PHA!
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 07, 2008, 05:53:42 PM
Man, some critics, actually most critics do just like to bash films.  Anything that doesn't have some political point or is a totally crappy movie the critics don't like.  Still, with the Academy Awards at least there is a comeback with good movies winning awards.  Just take a look at the numbers, even though some of the succesful movies really aren't that good, that isn't the case with most.  I think critics are desperate for attention, that 's why they bash everything.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: okokokok on February 06, 2008, 05:25:36 PM
I feel like M Night has a very specific voice and it is just becoming more and more specific.  I know that with each movie it's like he is speaking directly to my aesthetic more and more.  But I think that the more specific and refined his voice becomes, the less interesting he is to critics/audiences who enjoyed his earlier and more broad perspective.  A lot of what critics have said about The Village(and Lady in the Water as well) I can understand and see what they are talking about, but it doesn't mean I feel the same way.  Here is an example:  A producer told me he didn't like The Village because he didn't think Ivy's father would let her go off into the woods by herself because she was blind, even though she took 2 guides with her.  There are so many reasons why it was completely within reason to have her do that on both a story level and a thematic level, yet this person just couldn't see that happening in real life.  Where he sees a weakness, I saw a strength.  I think the gesture of letting a blind person do something like that emphasized Ivy's strength as a person that will be a leader in the village and it show's her father's trust in her.  That is a pretty powerful idea I think, especially that the 2 people with sight were too afraid and turned back!  As well, it works on a story level perfectly because she can't see the "outside' world.  And this same producer's problem with Lady in the Water was that the character's had no motivation to do what they were doing.  Again, that is what I loved most about Lady in the Water.  I felt there was a sense of community and desire to believe in something and the willingness to comply with someone who they appreciate, and that moved me.  I think his voice is just becoming more specific.

Also Mr. Glass.1, there is definitely a political point in The Village, if only in the subtext.  The bad color?  It's like the Bush administration all over again. 
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 07, 2008, 09:58:20 AM
okokokok, I agree with everything you said, all the critics have to do is watch the movie, everything is explained in the stories, why the cahracters do what they do, what is happening, everything.  I agree with that.  What I don't get is, what do you mean by your last sentence, it was kind of confusing.  ??? ;D
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: okokokok on February 07, 2008, 04:29:03 PM
I was talking about the terror alert system we used to have.  Anytime the government wanted our attention, or to divert our attention even, all of a sudden there would be a terror alert, the worst kind of course being the "red" alert.  It was a way of controlling us, just as it is a way of controlling members of the village. 
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 07, 2008, 04:38:44 PM
You know, I hadn't thought about that.  I still think I disagree with you, but I think your point is well made.  I certainly can see where you got that.  Thanks for explaining, I was kind of confused. 
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: okokokok on February 07, 2008, 04:44:01 PM
Im curious about what you disagree with...the idea that the government used that system as a way to control people, or with that idea being in the films subtext?
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 07, 2008, 06:01:20 PM
I would agree that there is a political subtext there. I'm not sure exactly how much of it is intentional, or how much of it is supposed to relate to the current government - but it's definitely there.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: abby_hess on February 07, 2008, 10:29:02 PM
just because something is 'critically acclaimed' doesn't make it good with the flip side being if it ISN'T critically acclaimed that doesn't mean it's crap.

critics aren't known to be the best or even close to being all that good at judging what the PEOPLE like and in the end, that's really what matters.

different people like or love this movie for various reasons.  some because it's creepy.  some for the love story.  but one thing is for sure, it's not like the overrated fluff that is put out all too often by hollywood these days.  and that's something that is a constant with night's films.  they WILL be different.  they WILL have subtleties that make you think.  and personally, i hope they will ALWAYS have a twist in the end!! 
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 08, 2008, 09:48:54 AM
Well lifeordeath1, it depends on what you mean by controlling? If you could answer that I will answer, I'm just trying to make sure were not talking about two different things here.   ;D
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on February 09, 2008, 12:36:54 PM
Well lifeordeath1, it depends on what you mean by controlling? If you could answer that I will answer, I'm just trying to make sure were not talking about two different things here.   ;D

Was this directed to me Mr. Glass?  I am confussed.  I think you were having a conversation with someone else.  If not what did you need me to respond to?   ???
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 09, 2008, 01:33:06 PM
Yeah, I think his question is for okokokok.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 09, 2008, 01:38:34 PM
Yea, it was directed at okokokok, I didn't want to get in an argument, when we weren't even arguing about the same thing.  Sorry about lifeordeath1, I accidently typed in the wrong name.   :-[
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on February 10, 2008, 12:59:27 PM
Its all good!   ;D ;D  Just wanted to clarify things!
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 10, 2008, 09:52:39 PM
If you get the chance okokokok go ahead and reply otherwise, we should probably get back to the topic.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 10, 2008, 10:48:57 PM
My take is: in the story, the elders are using the creatures and fear as a method of controlling the village. Of course their intentions are good, but the lies are used as a method of protecting and controlling the citizens who live there.

The parallel I believe okokokok is drawing at, is that the government could be using terror and the terror level warning system as a method of protecting, but ultimately controlling it's citizens.

Of course I don't speak for okokokok.... so.... is that what you were trying to say?
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: okokokok on February 11, 2008, 01:33:41 AM
Sorry, I haven't had a chance to respond, but Dr. Malcolm Crow pretty much summed up my point better than I could have. 
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 11, 2008, 09:35:33 AM
Okay, I get it, thanks Dr Malcom Crowe, I think I partilly agree, but not entirely, yes for the most part it is there to protect, but I don't think it could really be used to control, though I guess if it got bad enough it could be used to control. 
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: DILinator on February 14, 2008, 04:49:32 PM
I know they aren't the critics, but a lot of the general public didn't like it because it was marketed very differently from what it played out to be, and people were ticked that it wasn't more scary.  Boo hoo for them.  That didn't bother me, but I think that was the biggest cause for a lot of public negative backlash.

As for the critics, they've had it in for M.Night for a while, and while many didn't like Signs, they weren't able to bash that as much because it was a little more accessible.  The Village however, was a very different, and unique movie, and left itself open to criticism (much like LITW).  Coupled with the negative public backlash, the Shymalan critics were able to really pour it on a movie, that they really just didn't give a chance from the get-go.  I seriously don't know how any sane person could laud a movie like No Country for Old Men, and bash The Village, but many critics would do just that.  That why (as I said in another thread here) critics opinions aren't generally worth the paper they're written on, the energy expended to type them into a computer, or the air they breath spouting them off piously.  If you couldn't tell, I don't have much respect for "movie critics"!  ;D
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on February 14, 2008, 07:31:30 PM
I would think that the critics liked No Country for Old Men because it was made more 'artistic'.  Shyamalan isnt very 'artsy', he's more main stream... in my opinion. 
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 15, 2008, 09:54:20 AM
I agree with what DILinator said about the overall backlash and critics.  I think that Shyamalan is "artsy" as you put it Lifeordeath1, and I think he has better understanding of moviemaking then most other people out there.  He knows how to make believable characters who you feel empathy for.  His movies have a very delicate, beatiful feel, yet realistic, and believable.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: DILinator on February 15, 2008, 04:13:56 PM
I agree with what DILinator said about the overall backlash and critics.  I think that Shyamalan is "artsy" as you put it Lifeordeath1, and I think he has better understanding of moviemaking then most other people out there.  He knows how to make believable characters who you feel empathy for.  His movies have a very delicate, beatiful feel, yet realistic, and believable.

Agreed.  And going back to NCFOM, I think that movie was artsy for the sake of being artsy, and while it got the love of the narrow minded critics, and the unabashed fans of the Coen Brothers, it actually was more lacking in substance than most Shyamalan films.  It played like a good action/suspence flick most of the way through, but then degerated at the end when they tried to bring out some great message in it, and make it more "artistic".  Instead, I found their supposed message insulting, and all of the characters were rendered cold, and completely devoid of any emotional attachment.  That's what Shymalan is good at, as you pointed out Mr_Glass, and why I believe his movies are far more meaningful than anything I've watched from the highly lauded Coen Brothers, or other filmmakers like them always looking for a more "artsy" finish to a film. 

So why did the critics not like The Village?  Because it wasn't dreary enough in it's message, the characters were actually likeable, and a Director who does not cater to the film snobbery of the critics was behind it!
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 16, 2008, 01:20:49 PM
Well said, I can't say anything more.  I just hope Night doesn't start pandering to the critics, not that I think he will.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: DILinator on February 16, 2008, 04:30:18 PM
Not to continue beating a dead horse, but I guarantee you that if the Coen Brothers had put out The Village, or even Lady in the Water, the critics would have lauded it, and put it up for an Oscar.  That's just how cliquish Hollywood is.  If you're revered like a film making god, it doesn't matter what your movie is likely.  And sadly, once people decide they don't like you, it very hard to get a good review no matter how good you film is.  After M.Night made Signs, a movie with a very strong spiritual message, the critics decided he was garbage, and they were going to bash whatever he did after that.  We'd better all brace for terrible reviews of The Happening when it comes out, and hope people ignore the critics and go see what is going to be a great movie anyway.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: okokokok on February 17, 2008, 01:19:43 AM
Mostly, from what I read, it had to do with the third act, why many critics didn't like it.  It seemed many though the ending was uneventful and thought it was sloppy and not on par with the first 2 acts of the movie.  There was all this talk about about "Oh, I knew what was gonna happen at the end" and because they figured it out, that means it was predictable and not good.  I always say "I knew what was gonna happen at the end of Titanic, why does that matter?" as an argument. 

On top of all of that is the fact that with an M Night movie,  considering the twists that he has pulled in the past, people are so busy thinking about how M Night is gonna trick the audience that they miss out on the movie.  Which makes me understand why I love all of M Night movies more than most people.   I honestly don't think he has the greatest story structure, so the ending is not ever what I'm really interested in.  It's the directing that I am in love with.  There are movies that I like because I like the way they play out, how the story unfolds, but I don't care as much for the movie, scene to scene...like the directing or acting.  It's exactly the opposite with M Night.  I love the way he composes all his scenes and the way he writes and directs his characters.  It's like going on a vacation via road trip to a specific destination.  The destination is part of it, but it's the actual road trip that I enjoy the most.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 18, 2008, 02:48:40 PM
I am an amteur filmmaker so I love the entire spect of each film.  Therefore, even if I don't like some parts of the story I still study the rest of the film and enjoy it.  So even if I didn't like Night's stories, which I do like, I would still enjoy his filmmaking and style, which is superb. 
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Rohan on March 30, 2008, 02:44:43 PM
The Village is a classic of the all the time. It's perfectly written and directed.

Rohan
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on March 31, 2008, 08:32:04 AM
Agreed, I like your signature Rohan.  I need to get a new one, make a real good one.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Namaste on June 18, 2008, 12:57:33 AM
I want to quickly address the "how can terror alerts be used to control people?" question quickly. Just read the latest Executive Orders since 9/11. they are getting more and more brazen and overtly right-suppressing. I suggest that we all start mailing each other copies of the constitution in the hopes that while Bush is reading our mail he might just come accross it. OK enough political ranting.
I agree with the people who said that The Village was promoted the wrong way. It is truly a masterpiece, but it was passed off as a cheap horror film so all the wrong people went to see it. It's also a film that can't be fully digested in one viewing by any means, and critics tend to review a movie after the first viewing. Third, despite all the film and art study these critics go through to become paid critics, they watch and review a movie from the point of view of what they perceive to be the average moviegoer which negates all their training. A review this film based on its artistry would go straight over the average person's head.

I see the Village; just not the way you see it.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Rulm on June 18, 2008, 04:09:23 PM
Ok, the main reason why critics (and most of the public) didn't like this movie was because they felt cheated. They went into it expecting one thing and got another...Much like "The Happening"...Though, I do believe "The Village" is better than "The Happening".
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: ALF on June 19, 2008, 02:28:55 AM
I'd like to answer to this question, because we discussed about this question during my last year at the university, when we were talking about "marketing and promotion at the cinema".

I don't know how it was for you in the United States, but I remember well how was the promotion of the film and the teaser trailer: they brought us this film as a terror movie directed by M.Night Shyamalan, in the line of The sixth Sense. The trailer was scary and all the public thought it was a terror movie. After that -maybe wrong" promotion- the critics attaked hardly -at least in Spain- this movie because for them it was far from a horror movie, and they analysed the film from the point of view as it was a terror.

Everybody was expecting a terror movie and they could'nt value the film well because they just felt deceived. I like the movie, I really like it, but I think it had a wrong promotion here in Spain, and that's why the critics didn?t like it.I hope you undeerstand what I mean.
Title: Re: Why Didn?t The Critics Like This Movie?
Post by: Cresmix on September 07, 2009, 12:38:53 PM
Not to continue beating a dead horse, but I guarantee you that if the Coen Brothers had put out The Village, or even Lady in the Water, the critics would have lauded it, and put it up for an Oscar. 

DILinator, you said it all with this phrase! Brilliant!
Critics just can't take it that a filmmaker can be sincere, spiritual, nice and talented altogether. MNS telles stories straight from his heart and his methods of expressing them just happen to be masterly and original. He never shows off, each frame and word in his movies have purpose, and he just keeps telling stories. Simple stories with simple means - but they look exquisite! He's adored by his actors, he's got the best cinematographers, he's very clear and he's an idealist. That's, I guess, something those snobs don't stand as well. He doesn't claim or try to be deep - he is deeper than most filmmakers will ever be.