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Title: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: mimefingers on December 21, 2005, 12:06:49 PM
 In the scene where Graham takes his flashlight and goes into the field, he can hear the aliens around him. He also sees a leg. (very creepy! ) At this point the aliens have the perfect chance to strike. Why don't they? Anybody?
Title: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: afi_village on December 21, 2005, 10:27:37 PM
 it wasn't time yet!  

well, i think it's because they had set a date to ambush the whole world at the same time and if they started attacking people before that time then people would start getting suspicious.  that means that people would have more time to prepare for them coming!

you say that it's a perfect time to strike, but that's only in the case of graham, not the whole world...

did that make any sense?  cause reading over it i'm thinking it didn't!
Title: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: mimefingers on December 22, 2005, 11:59:05 AM
 Now that I think about it, I think I have answer to my own question. In addition to what afi village said about they had a set date, I think they musta been still scoping out the area. When Merill goes to that place to take a look at enlisting for the army, there's that weirdo general guy who talks about how the aliens have come in to survey the area. "It's in old battle tactic," he says. So maybe the aliens were still unsure of themselves. Maybe. Possibly. Could be.
Title: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: marco on December 23, 2005, 01:14:27 PM
 I think in this movie aliens are scared as much as humans.In the Brasilian video for example the alien try to hide himself behind a bush;in the basement they make a lot of noise to keep Merrill and Graham busy so that Morgan is alone;moreover,at the very end,the alien without a finger grabs the child,who is very weak,and never attacks Merrill,but tries to keep a certrain distance from him.They want to attack humans,but they don't know them:that's what makes them frightened,in my opinion.
Title: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Dr.Hill42 on December 26, 2005, 05:31:03 PM
 I agree, the aliens WERE just as afraid of us as we were of them. Possibly because they already knew their weakness was heavily abundant on the planet. But they did seem desperate didnt they.  
Title: SIGNS visitor
Post by: visitorkyle97 on February 24, 2007, 04:23:17 AM
SIGNS aliens strike ONLY when cornered. [like in most alien
movies; they came to observe].
Title: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: werebearxxx on February 25, 2007, 10:32:39 PM
when meryl goes to the armyguy he says that they arte "probing" or checking things out..."for the rest of them" there is a whole scene in the movie that would anwser any of those questions.
Title: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Rohan on February 27, 2007, 05:56:00 PM
Ok what's the steam gas thing tha alien applies on Morgan's nose. I think he saves MORGAN. Doesn't he?

Rohan
Title: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: marco on February 28, 2007, 10:21:24 AM
Quote from: "Rohan"
Ok what's the steam gas thing tha alien applies on Morgan's nose. I think he saves MORGAN. Doesn't he?

Rohan


I can't follow you :?
Title: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Legolas on March 01, 2007, 07:48:25 PM
Quote from: "Rohan"
Ok what's the steam gas thing tha alien applies on Morgan's nose. I think he saves MORGAN. Doesn't he?

Rohan


I'm pretty sure that stuff is poison.  The poison didn't kill Morgan because the airway to his lungs was closed due to his severe asthma attack.  It was Morgan's medicine that stopped his asthma.
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Rohan on December 23, 2007, 03:56:32 PM
Awesome... movie.... no mistakes at all
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on December 24, 2007, 02:22:38 PM
Yea, great movie, what Legolas said is correct, it was poison but his airways were closed because of the asthma attack.
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 17, 2008, 01:15:01 PM
Quote
Awesome... movie.... no mistakes at all

Well I guess that goes by what you want "mistakes" to mean.
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 18, 2008, 09:55:51 AM
Yea, what exactly do you mean, though if I remember correctly I can't think of any mistakes either.
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 28, 2008, 06:48:43 PM
There are always small goofs in movies. Whether it be continuity issues, or picture and audio mistakes. Signs has a fair share of that type of stuff.
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 29, 2008, 09:49:30 AM
Somewhat, I can only vaguely remember a few.
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 29, 2008, 11:54:33 AM
There is probably a dozen or so. I'll make a list.
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Orandhite on January 29, 2008, 12:10:32 PM
A bit late for me to come into this discussion, but I always thought that the alien that he sees in the field, and the one they chase around the house, is just a scout, so would not attack.  They check out the area and report back on things like numbers, resistance, layout, possible attack points or defensive positions, that kind of thing.  They don't attack as they need to get their butts back to base so they can pass on that information.   :)

And yeah, with the gas question I always thought it was poison and that his asthma saved his life as he did not manage to breath any of it in (have a listen to the dialog of Graham when they are outside hoping he will wake up).
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 29, 2008, 01:11:09 PM
Continuity:



Audio/visual unsynchronized:



Crew or equipment visible:


Revealing mistakes:


Factual errors:

Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 30, 2008, 09:40:48 AM
That's a very comprehensive list.  Thank you very much.  I recognized some of those and had heard about others.  Still, on the whole I think that is a small amount of mistakes.   ;D
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 30, 2008, 06:05:56 PM
yeah, some movies have much longer lists.
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 31, 2008, 09:37:07 AM
Some movies have ridiculously long lists, sometimes they just can't help it, but other times it's just carelessnes.
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: abby_hess on February 03, 2008, 10:23:07 PM
my opinon is that some things are supposed to be accepted.

i mean, if we over analyze every little thing....well it's all just a bunch of dress-up/make believe in the first place LOL
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 04, 2008, 09:57:45 AM
That's a good point, but still, when you make something you want it to be the best possible.
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 04, 2008, 12:26:50 PM
That's a good point, but still, when you make something you want it to be the best possible.

And maybe that's why some of the mistakes are there... right? Maybe Night decided to use the take with the best performance from Officer Paski (Cherry Jones) even though her pen shifts from being clipped on the outside of her shirt pocket to being fully inside.

There is that small continuity mistake, but the trade of is a superior and more believable performance... (hypothetically in this case... probably  ;))
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: abby_hess on February 04, 2008, 06:52:19 PM
when i see little things like that i like to believe that the character (paski in this situation) moved the pen quickly, we just didn't see it lol
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 04, 2008, 07:28:01 PM
when i see little things like that i like to believe that the character (paski in this situation) moved the pen quickly, we just didn't see it lol

 :D :D :D

And when Bo Hess' shoes come untied, she quickly untied them while her dad (and the audience) wasn't looking?
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: abby_hess on February 04, 2008, 09:14:02 PM
something like that LOL
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 05, 2008, 12:26:50 AM
thought so.

 :D :D
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 05, 2008, 09:32:55 AM
That's funny, and I like to think that also.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: marco on February 06, 2008, 03:02:33 PM
The list Dr.Crowe posted made me think about one little thing I noticed probably the 8th or 9th time I watched this movie.If you pay attention to the scene when they're all eating for dinner,just before the first shot when they're all around the table,there is a butter jar (don't know if this word is correct ::))...Well,it's written on it: "Believe".It remains for a second maybe...Did you already notice that?When I saw it I was obviously like that :o...M.Night rules,nothing else to say ;)
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 07, 2008, 09:54:04 AM
I've never noticed that, I'm going to have to go check that out.  Only Night would put something in there like that.
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 07, 2008, 11:45:04 AM
Yeah, that reminds me of the crosses Night has on all of the doors. The pattern in the door at first looks quite normal, but upon closer inspection, it's a big cross. That also happens to be the last image from the movie.
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 07, 2008, 12:36:34 PM
Yea, some of these things you can find out about in the special features.
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: marco on February 07, 2008, 03:36:30 PM
Yea, some of these things you can find out about in the special features.

Yes,but they are very few.I think there are a lot more waiting to be discovered ;)
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: marco on February 07, 2008, 03:38:35 PM
Yeah, that reminds me of the crosses Night has on all of the doors. The pattern in the door at first looks quite normal, but upon closer inspection, it's a big cross. That also happens to be the last image from the movie.

Wow,never noticed!..I think I'll have to check it out,too! ;)
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 07, 2008, 04:27:41 PM
Yea, there are lots of things like that in Shyamalan's films.  He's just that kind of director.  Each time I watch one of his films, I'm always looking for something new, or something hidden in the shot.
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: marco on February 07, 2008, 04:49:39 PM
Yea, there are lots of things like that in Shyamalan's films.  He's just that kind of director.  Each time I watch one of his films, I'm always looking for something new, or something hidden in the shot.

Me too.I love his movies for this (and for a thousand other reasons,of course)  ;)
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: abby_hess on February 07, 2008, 10:12:28 PM
i've seen 'signs' probably well over a hundred times (i put it in the dvd player at night to sleep to lol) and have never noticed the 'believe it' thing.  of course i had never noticed the shoelace thing or the pen clipping thing....my attention to detail leaves a lot to be desired.

what i DO pay attention to more than anything in every movie i watch is the dialogue.  and this is one i can recite word for word....uh---ummm---not that i sit around and DO that.....nooooooo....that would be way too geeky.......maybe LOL
Title: Re: Why Didn't They Attack Graham?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 08, 2008, 09:34:21 AM
Yea, there is something about Night films, and Signs in particular, where everybody picks up on a different thing each time they watch it.