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Films => Lady in the Water => Topic started by: Dr.Hill42 on January 29, 2006, 11:25:56 PM

Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Dr.Hill42 on January 29, 2006, 11:25:56 PM
 This issue has been buggin' me for the past few months. We all know Night's view. He says "It's life or death" to him. I have the same strong love for the theatre. I like the feeling I get when I go see a movie, the atmosphere, the excitement, and the all around wonderful experience. If the theatricle window is to be done away with, I really don't doubt the fall of the theatre. Some people are looking at this with closed minds. They think the theatre is doing bad how it is now, they see it as inevitable that the business in the theatres will crumble. Night nows well though. I really liked the point he made about "March of the Penguins". Something to the fact of, 'If a documentary about penguins can make 75 million, theres still a market'. I want to hear your views though.  
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Wags on January 30, 2006, 11:34:19 AM
 I totally agree with you, and Night.  The experience of the theatre is what drawas people to it.  But I do feel that the ever closing window between movie and DVD release will hurt the business more, because as much as well all love going to see the movies, there is one thing that will keep people at home ordering them On-Demand: CONVENIENCE.  That's why there are McDonalds on every street.  That's why restaraunts are everywhere: because people are lazy and would rather not have to drive out somewhere when they can sit at home and watch a movie while still in their pajamas, in the comfort of their leather couch with a kickin' sorround sound.

And as for the "Crumbling theatre" I view it as this: evolotion is finally kicking in and people are getting smarter.  They aren't gonna run out and shell out twenty bucks to see Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo.  

Although, it appears they don't have a problem seeing Big Momma's House 2  :blink:  
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Rohan on January 30, 2006, 04:29:23 PM
 Hi,

I really would comment and give my opinion here, but since I don't really know what is THEATRICAL WINDOW? Can somebody explain to me and why it is good...then I will comment on it..

-Rohan
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Dr.Hill42 on January 30, 2006, 04:42:15 PM
 Theatricle Window is the time between the release of a film in Theatres to the realease on DVD, on demand, ect.

Sorry, I probably should have made that evident in the first post.
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Rohan on January 31, 2006, 06:13:19 PM
QUOTE (Dr.Hill42 @ Jan 30 2006, 04:42 PM)
Theatricle Window is the time between the release of a film in Theatres to the realease on DVD, on demand, ect.

Sorry, I probably should have made that evident in the first post. [/quote]
 Alrite now I am on the track a little bit, So M.Night wants to have the theatrical window? Or he disagrees with it.

-ROhan
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Rohan on January 31, 2006, 06:18:57 PM
 I think I know what that means now, as I was reading the posts above it made it clear to me.

See I agree with M.Night and I want movies to play longer in theatres and it should be out on DVDs like atleast after 7 months and that will really make the business perfect.

No one wanna watch a movie release on theatre, on dvd at the same time, its really sounds stupid..

"Then I Gonna Be like this" hey dude,, Lady In The Water DVD is coming out this summer...wanna buy it? ahah  sounds really stupid.

You know all this thing started when this stupid director "Steven Soderburg" came out with this idea I guess, he just recently released one of his movies "BUBBLE" in theatres, in dvd will be coming out and the movie is now on playing "some channel" known as "HDfilms" channel..I think..

Steven Soderburg is way stupid

-ROhan
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Dr.Hill42 on January 31, 2006, 07:29:02 PM
 You're right on. Although Steven Soderburg and Night have the same love for film and Night has a mutual respect for him, they have their seperate views. They have had their talks which Night seemed to think were exhilerating. I'm sure it was interesting to hear Soderburg's point of view. I think Bubble will be one of those movies I end up boycotting and slumping around using it as a curse. The last movie I did this with was Duece Bigalow...European Gigalow....ha thats kinda low eh?
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Rohan on February 01, 2006, 08:04:28 PM
QUOTE (Dr.Hill42 @ Jan 31 2006, 07:29 PM)
You're right on. Although Steven Soderburg and Night have the same love for film and Night has a mutual respect for him, they have their seperate views. They have had their talks which Night seemed to think were exhilerating. I'm sure it was interesting to hear Soderburg's point of view. I think Bubble will be one of those movies I end up boycotting and slumping around using it as a curse. The last movie I did this with was Duece Bigalow...European Gigalow....ha thats kinda low eh? [/quote]
 yeah I know, but wasn't this steven's idea to actually move theatrical window....

-Rohan
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Dr.Hill42 on February 01, 2006, 08:06:47 PM
 No, not his alone, hes just going through with it.
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 02, 2006, 12:41:35 PM
 I am all for watching movies at the movie theater, but if it came down to the elimination of the movie theater, or the elimination of DVD's, my vote is for the elimination of the theater!
HDTV is usually clearer than the theater, 5.1 surround sound at home is kick-ass. No $4.50 sodas and $5.50 popcorns. Plus no fat-ass chewing and talking in your ear the whole time!
But the movie theater isn't going anywhere, so don't worry.
I am glad that Night is standing up for something he believes in!
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Rohan on February 02, 2006, 12:54:36 PM
 To me, No Matter how latest in technology and science the home theatre systems gets and no matter how fancy they will become and no matter how great they will become, BUT I WILL STILL GO TO THEATRE, CAUSE THEATRE HAS A DIFFERENT TASTE AND DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT AND A UNIQUE PLEASURE YOU GET WHILE STANDING at the boxoffice window and asking few tickets and you go watch the movie you want.

I will get myself home theatre system, but still my steps will be towards going to a theatre close to my home...thats what I am talking about.

-ROhan
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Wags on February 02, 2006, 05:25:42 PM
QUOTE (Dr Malcom Crowe @ Feb 2 2006, 12:41 PM)
No $4.50 sodas and $5.50 popcorns. [/quote]
 All right, I have to clear this up.  As an employee of a movie theatre, I hear countless times the complaining of the expenisve food and beverages.  But here is why:

Movie theatres make very miniscule amounts of money from that $8.50 ticket. Im talking less than half.  IT all goes to the movie companies.  And so, to keep that enormous megaplex with all the advanced movie showing technology in business, we must sell our food at high prices to make money.  
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Dr.Hill42 on February 02, 2006, 06:05:12 PM
 I'm tired of this complaint as well. Either 5 dollar popcorns or 20 dollar tickets, you choose.
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 02, 2006, 09:21:12 PM
 
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I'm tired of this complaint as well. Either 5 dollar popcorns or 20 dollar tickets, you choose.
That is exactly why people said "Nope! I'm paying $3.75 for a DVD rental, screw you Regal Cinemas!"

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All right, I have to clear this up. As an employee of a movie theatre, I hear countless times the complaining of the expenisve food and beverages. But here is why:

Movie theatres make very miniscule amounts of money from that $8.50 ticket. Im talking less than half. IT all goes to the movie companies. And so, to keep that enormous megaplex with all the advanced movie showing technology in business, we must sell our food at high prices to make money.
I think most intelligent people fiqured that out, but just because thats the way things are, doesn't mean people have to put up with it.
Obviously there is a problem with the business. They better find a way to please their customers or they will lose em. If it's broke, fix it! You can't just say "deal with it". Thats why DVD's are becoming more popular than theaters.

Don't get me wrong, I love watching movies at the theater. There are some movies that are absolutely more entertaining in a sold out theater than they could ever be at home, but we can't pretend everything is a-ok.
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Wags on February 03, 2006, 01:21:16 AM
 Very valid, and I totally agree with you, it is rather crooked the way theatres are run.

But here's a cool little tidbit:  most theatres allow you to bring in outside foods.  And you dont even have to sneak it in.  Maybe it's just the chain I work in, but  I once had to let a group of people in that were carrying little ceasars pizza boxes.  Outside food isn't prohibited, it just isn't advertised that its allowed.
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Rohan on February 03, 2006, 06:22:39 PM
 Well, its not really important to actually you have to buy POPcorn and a drink to watch a movie, I buy my ticket and watch the movie only and I really don't like "eating or "drinking" while watching the movie at the same time, I can eat that after I come out from the movie or either prepare something at home........

U don't have to buy things..lol

-rohan
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 04, 2006, 12:05:54 PM
 I don't buy things, but thats not that point. The point is that movie theaters are becoming less and less popular. They can't blame DVD's or cable, they have to realize that they are part of the problem and they need to fix some of those problems if they want to gain back some of their lost business.
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Rohan on February 04, 2006, 08:17:54 PM
QUOTE (Dr Malcom Crowe @ Feb 4 2006, 12:05 PM)
I don't buy things, but thats not that point. The point is that movie theaters are becoming less and less popular. They can't blame DVD's or cable, they have to realize that they are part of the problem and they need to fix some of those problems if they want to gain back some of their lost business. [/quote]
 So what you think Theatres should do or change?

Rohan
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 05, 2006, 01:20:28 PM
 
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So what you think Theatres should do or change?

I think there is both minor and major stuff that could be changed. I'm not a theater owner, so I don't know what is fesiable for a business to do or not do. Simple stuff is the lowering of consession prices. I don't care if that is the biggest revenue the theater sees, but making 98% profit on a soda is obviously taking advantage of the customer. They could afford to make 68% profit on a soda which would cut the price by a bunch for the customer. Same goes with Popcorn and Candy. I'd rather they did away with Nachos because the last thing I want to hear after paying $8 to see a movie if some fat ass chowing down on some nachos, let a lone the horrid smell. But I know that request is a bit unreasonable. Ticket prices are fair, thats one thing they seem to be doing right (at least here in Orlando). A big change would be for them to go digital. I can honestly watch a more clear picture at home than I can in a movie theater, and that is a problem. Dump the old technology and go for digital projectors. Companies have to move with technology or technology will be the cause of the death of that company. And that is the state of the business for theaters right now, dvd's, hd-dvd's, hdtvs, 5.1 surround sound are offering movie goers a better viewing experience in most cases.

Shyamalan actually gave his speach to theater owners here in Orlando. If I would of known ahead of time, I would have shown up, even though I'm not a theater owner, lol.


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But here's a cool little tidbit: most theatres allow you to bring in outside foods. And you dont even have to sneak it in. Maybe it's just the chain I work in, but I once had to let a group of people in that were carrying little ceasars pizza boxes. Outside food isn't prohibited, it just isn't advertised that its allowed.

I don't know what chain you work for, but I know that Regal Cinemas in Orlando does not hold that policy. I have been told several times that I wasn't allowed to bring in outside food/drinks. There is one exception, the Regal Cinemas I go to is part of one of these shopping "villages", I don't know if you all have these where you live, but It's essentially an outside mall that looks cute. Well, there is a local Ice Cream shoppe next to the theater, and the theater allows you to bring in their Ice Cream.
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Rohan on February 05, 2006, 03:12:40 PM
 Well, I really don't know about the popcorn,soda, or candy prices in first place specially in theatres because I never bought one while going into movies. That's just my habit and I have no clue why some people have problems buying those stuff.

I think the prices of the tickets nationwide in each theatre is just perfect and they should never increase or decrease it. $10 is just perfect and even some theatres in some small towns charge about even 6 0r 7 dollars.

Couple of months ago, this theatre owners were talking on CNN regarding the commercials before a movie starts in the big screen, two of the "owners" said that we moved commercials completly because those commercials are on TV also and people come to watch movies and they watch those commercials again! and even that CNN anchor that I don't remember who she was, said that "thats a good decision" and hope other theatre owners follow you two.

There are some commercials in theatres, like IPOD,COKE,Even I saw victoria Secret commercial.... and I went to theatres to watch KING KONG but they didn't showed commercials anymore, just a big screensaver offering some mortgage fonts appears and then after few minutes they showed UPCOMING Trailors and then the movie.

Regal Cinemas I think shows "commercials" I guess, its been more than two years I haven't been into Regal cinemas. Here is two theatres close to me "AMC" and Century theatres.

-Rohan
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Wags on February 05, 2006, 06:22:57 PM
QUOTE (Dr Malcom Crowe @ Feb 5 2006, 01:20 PM)
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So what you think Theatres should do or change?

I'd rather they did away with Nachos because the last thing I want to hear after paying $8 to see a movie if some fat ass chowing down on some nachos, let a lone the horrid smell. But I know that request is a bit unreasonable. Ticket prices are fair, thats one thing they seem to be doing right (at least here in Orlando).

A big change would be for them to go digital. I can honestly watch a more clear picture at home than I can in a movie theater, and that is a problem. Dump the old technology and go for digital projectors. Companies have to move with technology or technology will be the cause of the death of that company. And that is the state of the business for theaters right now, dvd's, hd-dvd's, hdtvs, 5.1 surround sound are offering movie goers a better viewing experience in most cases.




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But here's a cool little tidbit: most theatres allow you to bring in outside foods. And you dont even have to sneak it in. Maybe it's just the chain I work in, but I once had to let a group of people in that were carrying little ceasars pizza boxes. Outside food isn't prohibited, it just isn't advertised that its allowed.

I don't know what chain you work for, but I know that Regal Cinemas in Orlando does not hold that policy. I have been told several times that I wasn't allowed to bring in outside food/drinks. There is one exception, the Regal Cinemas I go to is part of one of these shopping "villages", I don't know if you all have these where you live, but It's essentially an outside mall that looks cute. Well, there is a local Ice Cream shoppe next to the theater, and the theater allows you to bring in their Ice Cream. [/quote]
 I totally agree with you with the nachos.  They are really loud and distracting.  I also hate boxes of small candy, that they have to ratte to get some (like buncha-crunch and milk duds) .

And as for the digital technology in theatres, i think I read somewhere that one chain is starting the transition to digital tecnology.  Maybe Carmike or something.
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Rohan on February 06, 2006, 08:23:47 PM
 What kind of think you guys want theatres to change in terms of technology,,?  cause when I go to movies,,the screens are perfect and so as the loud surround sound...

-Rohan
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Dr.Hill42 on February 06, 2006, 08:44:09 PM
 If you've ever been to a house with an all out 5.1 surround and what not theatre system installed, you'd know the difference. It really is amazing.
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 06, 2006, 10:46:30 PM
 After watching HDTV programming and DVD's I soon realized how imperfect movie theater projections and screens are.
Title: Theatricle Window Debate
Post by: Rohan on February 07, 2006, 05:03:46 PM
 I think they are good,,lol.....  Theatre systems at home,,, are cool too,,but still watching a movie on the big screen is a different taste..

-Rohan