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Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: Conclusius on July 22, 2006, 10:19:37 AM
 Now, I'm no Night freak, but I do enjoy his movies, especially Signs. I like the twists, the plots, the acting, a lot of things about his films are unique and I respect that. But Lady in the Water definitely did not thrill me the way I expect.

First of all, what was with the sprinklers? That scared everyone in my theater the most! The thing that annoys me is he does about two or three times! Don't try the same trick twice man. Also, his ads are really, really misleading. He makes it look like a horror movie and it's not. My five year old cousin could probably go see it.

Also, the ending, in my opinion, was just plain bad. When the movie ended with the eagle flying away, I thought "Wtf?" Where was the huge twist (unless you count Reggie being the Guardian, but come on. You had to see that coming with all the other role changes (with the Guild and Interpreter)) and it's just inconclusive. If anyone here saw History of Violence, this ending and that ending are almost one in the same. Just not conclusive in the story at all. Now, my take on what M. Night should've done was do something along the lines of showing the future. Maybe making some fake news reports, talking about his assassination, the war ending (I assumed about his character's ideas and I think he wanted to end the war in Iraq), etc. Show that what Story said would come true, well, would come true.

Third, this may be my own fault because sometimes I didn't pay attention (I was making fun of it a lot. Come on, who didn't want Reggie to go all Darth Maul on the Skrunt at the end with that pool thing?), but was there any purpose to the Guild or Interpreter? Of course the Guild gave life back to Story, but why couldn't Heep (Heap?) just run out and throw Story into the pool right after M. Night's character saw her? Simple, fast, effective plan. Heep might have gotten scratched by the Skrunt, but can't he spare a little skin?

Finally, Story tells Night's character that a boy from "a far away land" will read his book and become inspired. He would someday become leader of "this land." If I remember correctly from Social Studies, an immigrant cannot run for presidential office in the US. And it sounds as though a "far away land" and this land" are talking about two far away countries, not like the boy lives away from them in the US somewhere. And they definitely live in the US, what with the news reports all speaking perfect English (no Brit accent or anything) and always talking about US troops.

Feel free to reply back and justify all my points. But remember people, don't get upset, it's a movie. And I liked it, besides the ending, so I'm not criticizing for the sake of criticizing.
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: Dr.Hill42 on July 22, 2006, 02:31:22 PM
 yeah...sorry bud but Night even said there wasn't going to be a big twist in this one. Also with the sprinklers, he isn't trying to scare you. I found it to be relieving until i found out what it meant. The movie is really tense for a little while and then you see the sprinklers go off, it scares a few people yeah but it just shows you how tense he keeps it and instead of pulling a stupid gimick that destroys the plot he decided to relieve some tension with sprinklers which i tought was wonderful. He uses comedy for the same device.Ok so theres a lot of tension building up in the audience and then somebody does something remotely funny and people laught, they look around and say, ok...we're alright. Also with the changing of the roles, think if the movie had been straight forward and they had gotten it right the first time...It could also Night be telling us to never give up. If we think we find our purpose but it goes wrong, don't stop looking, its still out there waiting for you. The universe will align.

The prophecy was that the guild would use their hands to assist the healer.

It seems to me like the Blue World isnt that large. So maybe the far away land could have been Kansas. They were in PA and the US is a very large country.

I'm glad you went about that nicely. So many jerks like to criticize just to make fun. But I have to admit, the little bit about Darth Maul made me laught.
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: MNightFan430 on July 22, 2006, 03:00:44 PM
 I understand you didn't care for the movie as much, but that's okay.  Everyone has their own opinion.  

But your paragraph about how the movie was inconclusive kind of doesn't make sense.  If you think about it, you know Story has to get home right?  Did she get home?  Yes.  So the movie was concluded there.  The character roles were subplots.  The movie was indeed finding out who played what role, but it was for the purpose of helping Story getting home.  That's what the movie is about, getting Story back to the Blue World.  

Second, if you haven't seen "The Village" or it's advertisements, you might not understand this.  Someone told me that M. Night has no control of his theatre or TV ads.  He just tells them what he wants.  I could be wrong.  "The Village" was disappointing for most people because the ads made the movie look really scary, but it wasn't.  I knew it wasn't going to be that scary because it was M. Night's fourth movie and I know how he does his movies.  Same with "Lady in the Water", it was advertised as "horror", which it wasn't.  And you would think everyone would learn by now, how M. Night does his films.  But, wouldn't you want to advertise your movie as the best as possible to draw in the crowds?  I would.  Yes, it will cause the movie to be a bummer, but with all the crowds, the movie company is bringing in the money.

The sprinklers added effect to the movie, because the narf sets them off.  It's one of those effects of her being there, like how Cleveland doesn't studder around her.  I think the sprinklers kept the atmosphere as "real" as possible.  Sprinklers are everywhere.  So maybe after people watch this, they won't see oridnary objects, like pools, trees, or the sprinklers, the same.  I know I won't...

Finally, on your paragraph about why they didn't keep the movie simple and throw the narf in the pool and call it good is breaking the number one movie rule.  Every movie needs conflict.  That's what makes the movie.  He couldn't just simply throw her in the pool, because she was a madamme narf, every scrunt was trying to kill her no matter what.  That's the conflict.  It's like when you see scary movies and the characters always check where the sound came from, instead of calling the police.

One more thing, the part about the boy from far away was is possible.  I believe you have to be a U.S. resident for, I think, 25 years.  It can happen, especially since Story says he find the book at a young age.

I'm sorry you didn't care for the movie, but I enjoyed it and I did have my disappointments too.  Also, I can't wait to see M. Night's next film.  I know, it didn't end the way you wanted it to, but I think M. Night doesn't want ot have a signature of he has to do twists all the time on him.  Not everyone enjoys a twist.  I hope this helped you a little.  I did have fun typing it!
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: mimefingers on July 22, 2006, 05:22:44 PM
Just in case you're still wondering, Conclusius, the little kid Interpreter's job was to tell everyone what would happen that night and how. His talent was that he could look at cereal boxes and explain to you what message they had within them. So his purpose was to give all the vessals the low-down on the situation. Does that help?

By the way, I loved the move!!!
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: Conclusius on July 22, 2006, 06:01:17 PM
 
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But your paragraph about how the movie was inconclusive kind of doesn't make sense. If you think about it, you know Story has to get home right? Did she get home? Yes. So the movie was concluded there. The character roles were subplots. The movie was indeed finding out who played what role, but it was for the purpose of helping Story getting home. That's what the movie is about, getting Story back to the Blue World.

I see your point, but at the end I just felt kind of "empty," like "I sat through the movie for an eagle?" You know what I felt would've been a better ending besides the one I mentioned? If Heep had married the Asian girl!  :P  Just kidding, lol.

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Second, if you haven't seen "The Village" or it's advertisements, you might not understand this. Someone told me that M. Night has no control of his theatre or TV ads. He just tells them what he wants. I could be wrong. "The Village" was disappointing for most people because the ads made the movie look really scary, but it wasn't. I knew it wasn't going to be that scary because it was M. Night's fourth movie and I know how he does his movies. Same with "Lady in the Water", it was advertised as "horror", which it wasn't. And you would think everyone would learn by now, how M. Night does his films. But, wouldn't you want to advertise your movie as the best as possible to draw in the crowds? I would. Yes, it will cause the movie to be a bummer, but with all the crowds, the movie company is bringing in the money.

I did see the Village, but I thought that the ads lived up to it. I thought it was pretty scary. Scarier than his others, I would think so.

I would want my movie to seem good in an ad, but not make it look like a different kind of movie than what it really is. That's lying my friend, and audiences don't appreciate liars. Plus, with bad reviews and word of mouth, a movie that looks good but isn't will fail in the box office (maybe not fail, but won't do that great).

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The sprinklers added effect to the movie, because the narf sets them off. It's one of those effects of her being there, like how Cleveland doesn't studder around her. I think the sprinklers kept the atmosphere as "real" as possible. Sprinklers are everywhere. So maybe after people watch this, they won't see oridnary objects, like pools, trees, or the sprinklers, the same. I know I won't...

Umm...I think the timers set off the sprinklers actually, lol. There's kind of a difference between setting sprinklers off and stopping his stuttering, don't you think? Plus, she's in the house both times they go off, so...yeah. The sprinklers don't go off when she goes out during the party at the end, so I don't think that's right.

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Finally, on your paragraph about why they didn't keep the movie simple and throw the narf in the pool and call it good is breaking the number one movie rule. Every movie needs conflict. That's what makes the movie. He couldn't just simply throw her in the pool, because she was a madamme narf, every scrunt was trying to kill her no matter what. That's the conflict. It's like when you see scary movies and the characters always check where the sound came from, instead of calling the police.

It already had conflict, one that could have been solved quite easily. And when you say "every scrunt," I only saw one during every scene except when the Tartujik come.



I'd love to type more, but I'm going to a camp for a week. So don't type too much for me to handle!  :D
 
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: Specter on July 22, 2006, 06:43:41 PM
QUOTE (Conclusius @ Jul 22 2006, 10:19 AM)
First of all, what was with the sprinklers? That scared everyone in my theater the most! The thing that annoys me is he does about two or three times! Don't try the same trick twice man. Also, his ads are really, really misleading. He makes it look like a horror movie and it's not. My five year old cousin could probably go see it. [/quote]
 The ads are not fashioned by him.  I think that, after FOUR movies, we should all know what to expect from an M. Night film.  The commercials will always be misleading for his movies, but that's because he doesn't design the marketing of his films.

Typically, you sprinkle your lawns at night, because that's the best time to water your lawn.  He wasn't pulling the same trick time and again, it's just that the night scenes had sprinklers.  They also went off when the creature was around, and about to do something.
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: Conclusius on July 22, 2006, 06:52:33 PM
 Could he not have showed the pool area with the sprinklers already on? Both times they went off, I think you could either see the Skrunt or was anticipating it to show. Therefore, he pulled a trick.
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: okokokok on July 22, 2006, 07:08:44 PM
 In reference to the boy who will grow up to be president, she says he grows up in the midwest, not a far away land.  

And as far as the empty feeling you at the end, that reminds me of how people feel about Unbreakable.  The wanted somekind of superhero ending, but that's not what the movie was about.  It was about someone realizing their place in the world.    

And why didn't he just throw her in the pool?  Because she didn't need to be in the pool, she needed to be ready for the eagle to pick her up.  

Also, there is not a difference in setting off sprinklers and stopping Cleveland from stuttering.  Him not stuttering is not explained, just as the sprinklers are not.  I don't think such things need to be explained given the presence of beings that are also unexplainable, especially when things like sprinklers going off are inconsequencial to what is happening in the story.  It's not reality, it's a fairytale. So you can understand the existence of a scrunt, but not understand these magical creatures from another world having strange effects on a foreign environment?  

And for the record, I was floored by the ending.  Floored.  SO amazingly perfect, I really can't believe that ending actually exists in this world.
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: MNightFan430 on July 22, 2006, 07:19:17 PM
 
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Umm...I think the timers set off the sprinklers actually, lol. There's kind of a difference between setting sprinklers off and stopping his stuttering, don't you think? Plus, she's in the house both times they go off, so...yeah. The sprinklers don't go off when she goes out during the party at the end, so I don't think that's right.

In the book the narf's presence sets the sprinklers off.  If you haven't read it, then don't worry about!  I would've thought the same thing you did! ::D:
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: Wags on July 22, 2006, 09:35:58 PM
 A lot of movies these days have that kind of abrupt ending.  Even one of Paul Giamatti's other films, Sideways, ends with you wanting to know what happens.

And as for a more superhero ending for Unbreakable, all I can say is:
SHORTEST FIGHT EVER: DAVID DUNN vs ELIJAH PRICE.
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: okokokok on July 22, 2006, 11:39:21 PM
 Does that mean you to wanted some kind of fight to happen or something at the end of Unbreakable, Wags?
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: SexualSuspect on July 23, 2006, 09:33:08 PM
 Im glad there was no BIG twist in this movie
the movie was a straightforward  story . Just like signs it shows us the place and purpose we all have in this world.  I think the problem always lies when you go into something ( a movie or anything else) expecting something, you will always be dissapointed. that's what happend with the Village, everyone went in thinking it was going to be this BIG horror movie and were dissapponted to find out it was not so , and that blinded everyone to the real essence of the village, which was a wonderful and touching love story.  If you went into Lady in the water, with some expectation then you will miss the message and the beauty that is this film!,  in itself it stands as a lovely story, and it should not be taken for granted.


I think Unbreakable's ending was AMAZING!
it would have been so easy for Night to end it like a typical super hero movie, with one big fight between good and evil, but so what ?
how would that justify the whole purpose of the movie?

elijah just wanted to know his PURPOSE in life, thats why he did all he did, bc he needed to know WHO HE WAS. and he got it in the end.
the ending was perfect!
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: okokokok on July 23, 2006, 09:55:03 PM
 I agree.
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: Aficionado73 on July 24, 2006, 02:02:19 AM
 I just saw "Lady" and I did not understand it at all  :( , thats why I am here to learn some info on it. I was sadden that I ddidn't understand it Because I am a HUGE M Night Fan...BUT I will go see it again. Something No One has mention is why Story's hair changes from red to blonde is it because she is dying? Is here life draining away? if you pay attention to the film the little boy says something about the cereal box making you feel happy but only makes him feel sad "like the time you forgot to pick me up from school". That part made me think that he was going to be the "Synbol" Man. I liked the Idea of a make believe world and make believe charachters but I feel that of all the movies he has done this is the weakest. For Me "The Villiage" was Amazing and "Signs" was Beautiful. The sixth Sence was Scary and Brilliant. and "Unbreakable" was good but done too soon. I think his best work is Sixth and Village. Oh and I also just saw the other night the fake documentary on him. It was good but you could tell it was made up.
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: MNightFan430 on July 24, 2006, 02:59:50 AM
 
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Something No One has mention is why Story's hair changes from red to blonde is it because she is dying? Is here life draining away?

The reason for that was mentioned, it just wasn't verbal.  When Story noticed her hair was turning white she immediately went to look for water.  This is because she is a sea creature and needs to stay submerged to keep her strong.  I don't think she would die, just become weak.  It's like taking a fish out of water.

Also, you said you didn't understand the movie.  What do need explained?
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: carmenjones_82 on July 24, 2006, 12:58:08 PM
 I love all his work.  And I was even posting a countdown to its opening on another forum.  I even took the day off work to go see the first showing of this!  But I was greatly disappointed in this one, and it was blatantly obvious that the rest of the theatre was disappointed as well, as everyone made disgruntled comments and sighs when that final  shot goes from the eagle in the night sky>>>to<<<<<< Directed by M. Night Shyamalan.  It's almost like..........."for real? That's it?" :(

Ya know?  In the 6th sense ,you'd never imagine that Bruce Willis' character was dead.  
In Unbreakable, you'd never imagine that Sam's character was really behind what is presumed terrorist acts in his search for a super-hero.
In Signs, you would have never guessed that water would be the demise of the aliens and the daughter being obsessed with leaving glasses of water laying around all over the house, would actually save them all.
In the Village, you'd never guess that they were really living in a secluded environment in modern times.  
In this film.... there was nothing that really made me say  "wow, didn't see that coming".  

IMO, this film was more like let's see if she gets home.  1hr 50 m later, she does.  I guess I'm disappointed because I'm just used to expecting the unexpected with his films and to me this film was highly predictable; all the way from the little boy from Wife and Kids being the interpreter to Freddy Rodriguez being her guardian.  I kept waiting for something to throw me for a loop but nothing did.  

I'm prepared for y'all to jump all over me for my personal opinions but tell me this...Out of all of his films who would rate this movie above any of his other films?  
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: on July 24, 2006, 12:59:21 PM
 i registered to say this :

the movie had alot of meaning to it ,everything made sense to me ...
i see a bunch of people "not getting it " and thats the main reason they didnt like it ...thats not a good reason to put this movie down.

out of all his movies i liked this one the most , my fave was unbreakable.

also the ending i thought was spectacular.

typically any movie would show the next day and all the characters doing ok blah blah blah , this film lets u go , right after the goal of the movie has been reached.

 
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: okokokok on July 24, 2006, 02:42:40 PM
 It seems some people only like M night movies because of the twist endings is all I can say.  It's a shame because he has SO SO much more going for his films.  I sometimes wish none of his movies had surprise endings so people were'nt just looking and waiting.  The actual coming of the eagle in this film is so much more jawdropping and amazing then any of his endings or twists im my opinion, and I adore all his films.  Did you think there should have been more at the end of E.T.?  Ya know, the spaceship comes and takes him away leaving Elliot looking into the sky?  And i didn't hear any disgruntled people in the 3 times I saw it and 2 of the showings many people clapped at the end.  
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: Wags on July 24, 2006, 06:15:35 PM
 I've seen LITW twice now, and here are my thoughts on some of the messages in the film: (SPOILERS LIE AHEAD!)

When it is revealed that Paul is not the guardian, he sits there with Story and says something like "Where are the Tartutic? Where's the justice? Why isnt he being punished?" And that really stuck with me, because I found it to be an allusion to the murder of his family.

And then Mr. Leeds constantly watching war coverage. And when the healing doesnt work, he says something like "I wanted to believe there was something special amongst all this awfulness." And then things kind of clicked with me then.

In a sense, this movie reminded me of Unbreakable. Samuel Jackson's character has a line in there that says something like "These are mundane times. And people are losing hope. It's hard for many people to believe that there are extraordinary things inside themselves, as well as others. I hope you can keep an open mind."

This is the state people are in these days. We find it hard to believe extroadinary things like Narfs, Scrunts, and Tartutics because we believe things like this arent possible. We only believe in realism, with little tolerance for the fantastic. Our minds aren't open.

And so we don't believe in such things as Guardians, Healers, Guilds, and Symbolists because we don't believe people can do extroadinary things like that anymore. And among things like war, death, and nuclear threats, can magical things like this really exist? Is there still good left in this world?

Story said when the Great Eatlon comes, the universe would line up and reveal we are on the right path. All the various ethnic people gathering together to get a complete stranger home shows that while things are not good between people these days, there is still hope that we all can get along to accomplish something.

And of course, when they discover Reggie is the guardian, it shows that no matter how odd people think you are, or how worthless you may seem, everyone has a purpose.

I loved this film.  And I get chills everytime, right from when Reggie is revealed to be the guardian, to when the Great Eatlon takes story away, and the choir chimes in, and we see everyone gazing in awe at it. Man, what A great movie.  
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on July 24, 2006, 06:24:54 PM
 Wags, I totally agree with you and all of your points! This is an amazing movie, I mean truly magnificent! It is a crying shame that this movie is oddly getting negative reviews and not making a lot of money. Sad thing is that I can see something like Miami Vice getting just the opposite reaction, which would be a real travesty. I have lost all faith in critics and the movie going audience of our generation. I know I keep on saying that, but it's how I feel.
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: Dr.Hill42 on July 25, 2006, 12:21:13 AM
 To me it seems like the people who are left with empty feelings at this movie are waiting and looking for clues for a big "twist ending". Its a bloody shame. If I were to ever do that I wouldn't feel ashamed in the movie, I would leave feeling ashamed and embarrassed that I wasted 7 dollars on a movie I didn't absorb.
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: on July 25, 2006, 10:10:21 AM
QUOTE (Dr Malcom Crowe @ Jul 24 2006, 06:24 PM)
Wags, I totally agree with you and all of your points! This is an amazing movie, I mean truly magnificent! It is a crying shame that this movie is oddly getting negative reviews and not making a lot of money. Sad thing is that I can see something like Miami Vice getting just the opposite reaction, which would be a real travesty. I have lost all faith in critics and the movie going audience of our generation. I know I keep on saying that, but it's how I feel. [/quote]
 yhea the movie was great

i didnt want to look any where else but forward ,i was glued to this movie.

the movie wont make much money but wait till it hits dvd

that where people will give it a chance and rent it or buy it ,

most movies make theyre real money on dvd sales.

either way ill be patiently waiting for it to hit my dvd collection.


but it is sad that a movie like snakes on a plane is getting decent reviews ,its incredible.


also wag good write up  
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: SexualSuspect on July 25, 2006, 06:15:35 PM
QUOTE (valos1479 @ Jul 25 2006, 10:10 AM)
QUOTE (Dr Malcom Crowe @ Jul 24 2006, 06:24 PM)
Wags, I totally agree with you and all of your points! This is an amazing movie, I mean truly magnificent! It is a crying shame that this movie is oddly getting negative reviews and not making a lot of money. Sad thing is that I can see something like Miami Vice getting just the opposite reaction, which would be a real travesty. I have lost all faith in critics and the movie going audience of our generation. I know I keep on saying that, but it's how I feel. [/quote]
yhea the movie was great

i didnt want to look any where else but forward ,i was glued to this movie.

the movie wont make much money but wait till it hits dvd

that where people will give it a chance and rent it or buy it ,

most movies make theyre real money on dvd sales.

either way ill be patiently waiting for it to hit my dvd collection.


but it is sad that a movie like snakes on a plane is getting decent reviews ,its incredible.


also wag good write up [/quote]
 yeah , your right
on dvd it will make more money

i just worry that if it doesnt do good, u know warners is not going to want to do any other movies with him, just like disney, turning their back on Night after 6 years and 4 movies

:(
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: okokokok on July 25, 2006, 07:32:40 PM
 I'm also mostly worried that he won't have the freedom to do what he wants if this movie fails at the box office, which it seems as though it is.  But technically, Disney didn't their back on him right?  I read that they said "here's 60 million, make the movie you want"  but they didn't like the idea and he felt he couldn't work under those conditions. Is that incorrect?
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: bakerbread on July 28, 2006, 12:11:52 PM
QUOTE (Wags @ Jul 24 2006, 06:15 PM)
And of course, when they discover Reggie is the guardian, it shows that no matter how odd people think you are, or how worthless you may seem, everyone has a purpose.

I loved this film.  And I get chills everytime, right from when Reggie is revealed to be the guardian, to when the Great Eatlon takes story away, and the choir chimes in, and we see everyone gazing in awe at it. Man, what A great movie. [/quote]
 That was my favorite part of the movie. i like how you mention that no matter how useless someone seems, they may have a great purpose in the future, or somehow indirectly influence someone for the better, etc...



i think the reason why the healer doesnt stutter around the lady is because being around the lady, the fear is removed, which causes the stuttering. i assume he started stuttering after the fact that his wife and children were murdered. because of the fear, he leads the maintenance man lifestyle, a person who is afraid of relationships, fear that people will know the truth about him and his family, etc...when the lady comes and does her thing, she saves him by "pulling" him out of his self punishment, hence saving his life.

thats a beutiful thing when a person overcomes that fear of living.
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: okokokok on July 28, 2006, 08:21:18 PM
 
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when the lady comes and does her thing, she saves him by "pulling" him out of his self punishment, hence saving his life.

She also saves him in that he again becomes a doctor in a way, as being the healer.  It seems like that's why he fights trying to be the healer, because he is too afraid to go back to his old life, old life of being a doctor.  I imagine him even going back and being a doctor again after Story leaves.  Not only that, but I just imagine Cleveland coming home to his murdered family and holding his wife and kids in exactly the same way he holds story, and that's all just too close to home for him.  
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: nick10 on July 29, 2006, 02:33:39 PM
 I went to the cinema not expecting this movie to be a " scary or a haunted " movie..but as the reviews said..it was more of a fantasy type of movie..

can some one please tell me about the story that was told at the beginning of the movie ..i went in late and just saw half of it..the story had something to do about " the sea people" and humans..

1.what did that story have in connection with the nymph foretelling Night's future?

2. what was the importance of the film critic's character? was he just there to mislead us?

3.what was the little kid doing reading those cereal covers?

although i liked the movie because of the story ..i felt that the characters werent natural enough..there was something lacking.....the movie doesnt convey the story so convincingly...what i like about his movies are that it is unique..these are stories no one has ever thoguht abt ..its original stuff...

is he the successor to the great stephen king??

i wish he had stretched the movie a little bit more..it was only 1.15 !
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: okokokok on July 29, 2006, 05:04:38 PM
 The story at the beginning basically says that at one point in time, we had a relationship with the "sea people".  The see nymphs spoke to us and inspired humans to do things that would help the world. But humans eventually stop paying attention to them and become more greedy and more interested in possesing the world. War ensues between humans and so on.  We lose our connection with these "Sea people". Then the sea people started sending the narfs to where humans reside to try and inspire us again.  

The critic doesn't just mislead us, he misleads the people in the movies as well.  And it's not that he only mislead everyone, it's the manner in which he misleads us all.  The movie critic is thematically relevant as he basically is the opposite of Cleveland in that he doesn't like to "learn" things.  He is close-minded.  He also represents the idea that things aren't always as they seem, and one should not presume to know anothers intentions.  

The kid was the symbolist.  They talk about it for about a minute just before the show him reading the boxes. They talk about it quire abit in other parts of the movie as well. He was able to use the cereal boxes as a tool to decipher what needed to be done by everyone, the same way his dad was trying to do with the crossword puzzles.
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: nick10 on July 30, 2006, 05:33:28 AM
 Hi thanks for the reply....at the end of the day the viewers were left to interpret the moral of the story..but they were just waiting for the final shock or "twist" which never came...

is it true that the nymph had come just to foretell Nights (the writer's future)..if it is so..its a bit unconvincing..

critics are being too harsh on their reviews..they just dont like any non conformity...they are all pondering over manoj's future..but i hope he never stops making films
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: okokokok on July 30, 2006, 01:35:16 PM
 No.  Story's purpose is to inspire M Nights character.  She came to inspire him to continue writing, as his book will become an important factor in future events.  That's her only purpose as far as the fairytale goes.  Telling him his future didn't effect anything.  Technically, the movie would have been over right after Story and Vick(Nights character) saw each other, since that is all that has to occur for the inspiration to happen.  The scene where Story tells Vick his future wouldn't have even happened.  But the fact that she is a madame Narf is the reason she doesn't go home that night, because the scrunt is willing to break the rules to kill a madame Narf.
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: MNightFan430 on July 30, 2006, 05:42:00 PM
 I like how everyone is telling their opinion about the movie! :D

It would be so cool to sit and watch Lady in the Water with M. Night and have him do some commentary!!!
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: Tiff on August 05, 2006, 07:10:21 AM
 
QUOTE (Wags @ Jul 22 2006, 09:35 PM)
And as for a more superhero ending for Unbreakable, all I can say is:
SHORTEST FIGHT EVER: DAVID DUNN vs ELIJAH PRICE.[/quote]
 :lol:  maybe it'll make it in the sequel, if elijah's holding a glass of water he just might have a chance.  :P  
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: Dr.Hill42 on August 05, 2006, 10:18:11 AM
 That would be awesome to have some directors comentary on the dvd!
Title: Little Disappointed
Post by: leelee on August 05, 2006, 11:36:59 AM
 no kidding, I wish that someday they'd come out with some special editions of all his movies with commentaries on them!