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« on: March 16, 2008, 10:32:27 PM »
Title Choosing is also a very challenging thing about script writing.  Choosing the wrong title can get you in a hole.  My current script has gone through several titles, trying to capture the essence of the tone...

Primary Victim - sounded too cliche.  I'm working under "sadistic" now, but it feels too much like torture porn - which is nothing like my story.  However, 'Sadistic' does encompass the attitude of my villian  - Mr. Stone.


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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2008, 10:39:25 PM »
My premise for those who are curious why i might choose sadistic -

A sadistic ripper terrorizes a talented journalist by demanding she offer her own life in exchange for the lives of three other potential victims.

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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2008, 08:50:48 AM »
Hmm, interesting idea.  It just depends on how things are going, some times title choosing is easy for me, other times it's not.  My next film, it's about a man who has dreams that his wife is going to die, it titled Timed Decision.  I picked it because it's original, ties directly into the story, and is simple.
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2008, 04:59:46 PM »
My premise for those who are curious why i might choose sadistic -

A sadistic ripper terrorizes a talented journalist by demanding she offer her own life in exchange for the lives of three other potential victims.

Sounds like a comedy, Mr. Stone.  ;D

I don't have a title for the story I'm working on right now. I have ideas from time to time, but nothing feels quite right. I'm hoping something brilliant will come to me later. (And maybe by then I'll know if I'm writing a book, a screenplay or a play. D'oh. ... First draft = gruesome mess.)
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2008, 08:37:42 AM »
Titles can be important, but I still write even if I don't have one, just to keep going, but I need a title before I start major work on the film.
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2008, 10:21:57 AM »
When I filmed the first part of my thriller trilogy I'm finishing, it wasn't meant to be anything major, and wasn't even given a title.  It was just for fun, and frankly, is more of a comedy than anything, for numerous reasons. 

However, when I decided I wanted to take a more serious stab at the genre, and base it off of the foundation set in the first film, I had to name the movies.  So I renamed the first film "Terminal Breakdown", and the successive sequels with that title and the number, followed by a subtitle.  For Terminal Breakdown 2, it's "Dead End", and Terminal Breakdown 3, "Final Destination".  By the third movie, which is a full length feature film, there is a definite message and moral behind the movies, that also ties in with the title, in more ways than the films being about people's cars breaking down and them getting stranded at places where an unseen killer takes them out one by one.  There is no other movie titled Terminal Breakdown, so it's definitely an original name.

With my next project, which is more of a crime drama/thriller about a serial killer who keeps victimizing people in the same manner over and over, and targeting people around the central character, I had actually named it Deja Vu, before the movie of the same name came out.  Now that they stole it  ;)  I have pursued finding a different name.  It was difficult at first, as I wanted something original, that stuck with you after hearing it, and wasn't cheesy sounding.  After some doing, I found it, and eventually, by the end of filming next year, you all should be hearing about it!  Sorry, but some things about a creator's works need to stay under wraps until the time is right.   
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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2008, 01:58:50 PM »
That's cool, though that stinks about Deja Vu being taken, o well.  Can you give us any more information on your next film?
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2008, 12:11:55 PM »
My premise for those who are curious why i might choose sadistic -

A sadistic ripper terrorizes a talented journalist by demanding she offer her own life in exchange for the lives of three other potential victims.

Your plot reminds me a little bit of "The Brave One," but with a ripper, MrStone. I loved "The Brave One." Never thought it was a vigilante movie, like everyone else did. I thought it was a character study about how one woman dealt with unspeakable trauma and tried to get her life back together. I guess she did plan and carry out the killing of that one drug lord/gangster who was going to ruin his child's life (was he going to kill his child? can't remember), but that was the only planned vigilante action in the movie. The one on the subway was spontaneous and began in defense of an innocent boy; the shooting in the liquor store was pure self-defense. (The end sequence, IMHO, was justice and, at times, self-defense, not vigilantism. I know others will disagree.)

I thought the "vigilante movie" label was totally unfair and probably kept a lot of people away from a fantastic performance by Jodie Foster. The movie really shook me. It's one of my favorites of the year.

Anyhoo, your plot sounds as if it offers the opportunity to do a lot of character development and character study, as "The Brave One" did. Doesn't sound like yours is a traditional ripper movie at all. Sounds very unusual and out of the ordinary. I hope it turns out well. Good luck.

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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2008, 12:26:44 PM »
That's cool, though that stinks about Deja Vu being taken, o well.  Can you give us any more information on your next film?

In general terms, it's about a female police detective who is drawn back into the investigation of a serial killer who killed her former partner (and boyfriend), and has now kidnapped her sister and is threatening to kill her in the same manner if the main character can't solve the case in time.  There is another wrinkle added when the main character thinks she is being followed around by someone who looks like one of the killer's former victims.  That's a very generalized overview.  This movie is definitely a drama in many ways, and there are many internal issues that all of the characters are dealing with, as well as an overarching "message" that the movie is trying to drive home, much like Shyamalan does.  There are twists and turns as well, and it should leave audiences guessing until the very end about the truth behind this savage serial killer.  Outside of that, I can't really tell you any more details, as those all unfold over the course of viewing the movie.     
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2008, 07:19:36 PM »
My premise for those who are curious why i might choose sadistic -

A sadistic ripper terrorizes a talented journalist by demanding she offer her own life in exchange for the lives of three other potential victims.

Your plot reminds me a little bit of "The Brave One," but with a ripper, MrStone. I loved "The Brave One." Never thought it was a vigilante movie, like everyone else did. I thought it was a character study about how one woman dealt with unspeakable trauma and tried to get her life back together. I guess she did plan and carry out the killing of that one drug lord/gangster who was going to ruin his child's life (was he going to kill his child? can't remember), but that was the only planned vigilante action in the movie. The one on the subway was spontaneous and began in defense of an innocent boy; the shooting in the liquor store was pure self-defense. (The end sequence, IMHO, was justice and, at times, self-defense, not vigilantism. I know others will disagree.)

I thought the "vigilante movie" label was totally unfair and probably kept a lot of people away from a fantastic performance by Jodie Foster. The movie really shook me. It's one of my favorites of the year.

Anyhoo, your plot sounds as if it offers the opportunity to do a lot of character development and character study, as "The Brave One" did. Doesn't sound like yours is a traditional ripper movie at all. Sounds very unusual and out of the ordinary. I hope it turns out well. Good luck.



I also really liked "The Brave One".  I thought it was pretty intelligent and well acted.  I never really did like Terrence Howard until that performance.

I can see the similarities between the Brave One and my story, character development and character study is one of my goals actually.  i want the audience to feel what she feels - desperation, and overcoming her fear.  Plus i think its interesting to have female hero's who are dealing with female struggles to overcome their dilemma.

For example, my hero - Rachel - is actually the only surviving victim of the villian - who conveniently is toying with her like a game.  he actually succeeds in killing all of his other rape victims....since she's the survivor - she's token..but she's got all of these emotional struggles to overcome..because she's afraid, she's emotionally damaged, and all she really wants to do is run from the situation...but he never goes away..he always finds her.


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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2008, 08:31:43 AM »
DILinator and MrStone, both your movies sound very interesting.  Very intriguing.  Hope the best happens to them.
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2008, 10:58:06 PM »
DILinator and MrStone, both your movies sound very interesting.  Very intriguing.  Hope the best happens to them.

just wait til you see the movie when it comes out...

j/k

if that happens, i'll definitely let you guys know.

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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2008, 06:05:50 PM »
I'd travel to have the opportunity to see it.  Alas, I must get back to work on my own film and do school also.
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2008, 08:19:13 PM »
I also really liked "The Brave One".  I thought it was pretty intelligent and well acted.  I never really did like Terrence Howard until that performance.

I can see the similarities between the Brave One and my story, character development and character study is one of my goals actually.  i want the audience to feel what she feels - desperation, and overcoming her fear.  Plus i think its interesting to have female hero's who are dealing with female struggles to overcome their dilemma.

For example, my hero - Rachel - is actually the only surviving victim of the villian - who conveniently is toying with her like a game.  he actually succeeds in killing all of his other rape victims....since she's the survivor - she's token..but she's got all of these emotional struggles to overcome..because she's afraid, she's emotionally damaged, and all she really wants to do is run from the situation...but he never goes away..he always finds her.





Just out of curiousity, MrStone, are you male? (Am assuming so, based on your screen name, but one never knows. :-) The reason I ask is that I'm always curious about how male and female writers portray the opposite gender in their work. I think it's interesting when one gender portrays the opposite gender's psychology/dynamics particularly well.

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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2008, 11:02:57 PM »
I also really liked "The Brave One".  I thought it was pretty intelligent and well acted.  I never really did like Terrence Howard until that performance.

I can see the similarities between the Brave One and my story, character development and character study is one of my goals actually.  i want the audience to feel what she feels - desperation, and overcoming her fear.  Plus i think its interesting to have female hero's who are dealing with female struggles to overcome their dilemma.

For example, my hero - Rachel - is actually the only surviving victim of the villian - who conveniently is toying with her like a game.  he actually succeeds in killing all of his other rape victims....since she's the survivor - she's token..but she's got all of these emotional struggles to overcome..because she's afraid, she's emotionally damaged, and all she really wants to do is run from the situation...but he never goes away..he always finds her.





Just out of curiousity, MrStone, are you male? (Am assuming so, based on your screen name, but one never knows. :-) The reason I ask is that I'm always curious about how male and female writers portray the opposite gender in their work. I think it's interesting when one gender portrays the opposite gender's psychology/dynamics particularly well.

yes, i am male.  Well, based on what i said, do you think i am portraying it well?

i am close with a few females who have been victimized or abused in some form...and i'm trying to atleast empathize with their stories