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first impressions...


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Re: first impressions...
« Reply #60 on: June 14, 2008, 06:12:26 PM »
I agree Rulm.  I am totally bummed a lot of people here aren't crazy about it.  However, I liked it quite a bit, just not as good as his last 4.  And when you say this could have been a classic, do you mean that every movie that M Night makes could be a classic?

Yeah, every movie Night makes has the potential to be a classic. "The Sixth Sense" is a classic for sure. Others like "Signs" are great to say the least...But there was something about this movie that made me think it would be a classic. Watching the credits in the beginning with the swirling clouds left me creeped-out and rose my anticipation for the movie even higher. Words can't really describe what I was feeling watching those swirling clouds. It was a great way to start it...Unfortunately, it just goes downhill from there.

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Re: first impressions...
« Reply #61 on: June 14, 2008, 06:27:53 PM »
I agree.  I think M Night has the capability of making a classic, well, a personal classic, every time out. 

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Re: first impressions...
« Reply #62 on: June 14, 2008, 06:48:55 PM »
As much as I love Night's movies, I think I'll sit this one out. I'm not a fan of graphic violence or Mark Wahlberg so.... I wasn't happy when I heard he was cast, but whatever. I enjoy reading fans opinions because to me, they're more accurate than biased sites like rottentomatoes. Thanks all of you for your reviews and comments so far. Regardless of whether this movie is a success or flop, I'm still a fan and know that Night will have more masterpieces in the future.

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Re: first impressions...
« Reply #63 on: June 14, 2008, 08:30:30 PM »
As much as I love Night's movies, I think I'll sit this one out. I'm not a fan of graphic violence or Mark Wahlberg so.... I wasn't happy when I heard he was cast, but whatever. I enjoy reading fans opinions because to me, they're more accurate than biased sites like rottentomatoes. Thanks all of you for your reviews and comments so far. Regardless of whether this movie is a success or flop, I'm still a fan and know that Night will have more masterpieces in the future.

If one of the reasons you are avoiding it is the supposed gore, rest assured most of those scenes are in the red band trailer. Also, those moments are few and fleeting. It is a good movie which you should not avoid for the wrong reasons.

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Re: first impressions...
« Reply #64 on: June 14, 2008, 09:25:44 PM »
OK..

I know not to many people here listen to my crazy ideas but a simple question..

(and no I haven't seen the movie yet, can't get out to the theater at the moment)

But my first impression from what I've read here is that maybe a peice of the picture might be missing out to the viewer (maybe I'm wrong)..

Doesn't this movie sound like a type of Anti-rapture, you know, the christian rapture where all the "good/positive" people are gone in a moments time, in this movie the "bad/negative" people "disappear" all of a sudden?

Just a thought??

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« Reply #65 on: June 14, 2008, 09:30:50 PM »
This review contains SPOILERS.



The happening is one of the scariest B movies you?ll ever watch

Lady in the Water was being released when I heard about a paranoid thriller that Shyamalan was creating. I remembered the terrific Invasion of the Body Snatchers and my expectations suddenly increased. Today, having seen the movie, I?m not disappointed.

Suddenly, I realize that the critics? opinion is no longer that important to me. Obviously, The Happening is a B movie, but a B with a very thoughtful message and a very well made one. There is a terrifying(and remarkable) sequence when the Police Officer shoots himself on the head, drops the gun. The cab guy grab the gun and shoots himself, drops the gun, the woman in pretty legs grabs the gun in a scary endless chain reaction. The best part of Shyamalan?s movies is when they starts to ask the audience some questions. And environment is a very disturbing problem that we?re not used to care. This is the first movie that we don?t have specific answers and that is the most brilliant thing about it. He gave us his dots we have to connect them and give our theory. When Wahlberg?s character Elliot asks his class about some theories on the bees disappearing he is actually asking us. By the way, funny way he finds to present the ?plants threat? theory. First with a lunatic guy and then some specialist on the TV.

Media represents a great place in this movie, just like Night of the Living Dead, one of shyamalan?s inspiration. When the characters turns on the radio, or the TV and make us hear is the way the director finds to make the audience participate on the movie and brake the barrier of passiveness on the theater. That is something that every single director tries to accomplish. On the other hand, the bad acting on Elliot and Alma didn?t keep us away from the movie -on Julian you really believe in, his pain is so real. We care a lot. I wish Leguizamo had more screen time-. But you laugh in almost every joke they throw. The jokes are important to be the relief point. The deaths occur but after that we laugh and the tension decreases.  That creates the pacing of the movie.

I didn?t like the pacing during the first half hour whatching the movie. It?s not like anything the director who spent so much time on the quiet mood of The Village. But in the end, it all makes sense. The audience left the theater with the tension over its shoulders. If the movie doesn?t have 90 minutes and a straight message(with the deaths occurring in front of us in the most graphic way he could) it wouldn?t have worked. If the pacing were slower we wouldn?t have left theater with this strong felling. To something that strong could be work as an echo on our head, James Newton Howard elevates the mood throwing strong bass chords under Maya Beisier?s violoncello.

The happening isn?t the best movie made by M. Night Shyamalan but certainly is one of the strongest. I hope someday critics could see it that way. They?re not convinced by how powerful he is playing with the language of film making. But the prove is evident. Unbreakable is an awesome movie with only first act. The Happening lacks the third act(usually the relief act), so the tension could goes on and on?

Sorry about the my English, I hope you like this review. :)

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Re: first impressions...
« Reply #66 on: June 14, 2008, 09:35:34 PM »
By the way, I've read through all of the reviews on this thread and I'm honestly saddened. Critics don't matter, but seeing fellow fans express disappointment is depressing. Though, we have to be real here; The Happening could have been a classic...Unfortunately, it's only ok...And I'm being nice with that statement.

I totally agree.  I really don't pay attention to the critics because they're opinions are always scattered.  But to hear other fans besides myself be disappointed in the film, it's quite sad.  When I walked out of the cinema I really didn't know how to feel.  I think I've just been through my first fanboy 'break up' haha :P

I still respect what Night is trying to do and I'm sure he'll return to form soon.  I think it's great he's doing the Avatar films, as he's working with other peoples material...although he's still writing the trilogy isn't he?  Hopefully they also hire some screenwriters to help him out.  The man could direct paint drying and he'd be able to make it exciting, his writing does need some work though.  My belief if that his earlier films went through many drafts and were flying around in his head long before 'he made it'.  Now that he's an established film maker, maybe he doesn't take as long on his scripts as he should?  I know he's talked about the script for The Happening coming very naturally and quickly, perhaps this wasn't a good thing.
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Re: first impressions...
« Reply #67 on: June 14, 2008, 09:49:41 PM »
I gotta say I really am trying to avoid other people's reviews of this film for awhile (ironic I know that I am now posting here).  Reason being is that I so totally enjoyed myself watching this film that I just can't see all of the problems people had with it. I am still mulling through this one too much and I don't want to lose that feeling.  I literally think about it and I can't for the life of me see the problems with the film.  People said it was fast, I thought it moved along fine.  People said it was boring, I thought it was vastly entertaining.  I read that the acting was awful, I thought it worked great.  I thought it had everything you want in a movie:  Humor, scares, heart... the works.  So I have a hard time with this one because I just can't even see the other perspective.
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Re: first impressions...
« Reply #68 on: June 14, 2008, 10:21:08 PM »
I gotta say I really am trying to avoid other people's reviews of this film for awhile (ironic I know that I am now posting here).  Reason being is that I so totally enjoyed myself watching this film that I just can't see all of the problems people had with it. I am still mulling through this one too much and I don't want to lose that feeling.  I literally think about it and I can't for the life of me see the problems with the film.  People said it was fast, I thought it moved along fine.  People said it was boring, I thought it was vastly entertaining.  I read that the acting was awful, I thought it worked great.  I thought it had everything you want in a movie:  Humor, scares, heart... the works.  So I have a hard time with this one because I just can't even see the other perspective.
*Sigh* Seriously, I've tried to pull out ANYTHING great--or good--in this movie, and I can't seem to grasp onto anything. I can't defend this. It's all OK at best.

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Re: first impressions...
« Reply #69 on: June 14, 2008, 10:44:01 PM »
Thirdeyeh, I kinda agree with you in a way.  That is, at this site, I am a little surprised how many problems people have had with the movie.  At the same time though, I can understand the problems people are having, even if I don't have the same problems.  M Night I think has been walking a fine line in his last few movies between who he is becoming as a director/writer and what people want him to be as a director/writer.

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« Reply #70 on: June 14, 2008, 11:13:16 PM »
Just throwing my opinion out there, I loved it! And I wasn't sure if I would or not.

I definitely think it's his most entertaining, fun to watch. Especially the second half, where a lot of the humor really starts rising up and taking a hold of the movie. I viewed it has his silly sci-fi B-movie, which is what he was going for I think. I think that's why a lot of the dialogue was the way it was, as well as the acting. If not, then it's still a lot of fun to watch, I think. The funniest part was definitely the "apology" to the house plant.

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« Reply #71 on: June 15, 2008, 12:30:43 AM »
Hey everyone,  I thought about making another thread called "2nd Impressions", but decided to just put it here with everyone's else reviews.

I saw The Happening for the 2nd time this morning.  I went Friday, but being the guy my friend's know as "the M Night Fan", a lot of people ask me to go see it with me.  And, I can never say no.

The 2nd time around, this movie really, REALLY grew on me.  It's still not my favorite Night film (Unbreakable), it definitely jumped up the totem pole.  I sat around all day, wondering why my opinion changed (I always try to analyze my own thinking, metacognition, if you will) and I think I pinpointed why...

I believe that I took this film wayyy too seriously when I first saw it.  I went in there, looking for an ultra terrifying, gory film with some DEEP undertones.  I completely missed that this was supposed to be a fun homage to B-movies, even though they said that's what it is.  This became more evident when I found myself, and my theatre, laughing at moments in the film that were genuinely funny.  This was definitely one of Night's more humorous movies, and while it makes for an awkward combo (terror and hilarity), this film really is just a fun ride.  And I was just too wound up the first time seeing it to realize.

To regain perspective, I thought about what I consider a B-movie.  and i thought about those old 50's movies where, at the end when the monster is killed, some character gives a monologue about man's need to change his ways.  And I found that in one of the final scenes, with the TV anchors talking about the happening. It was a scene I loathed when I first saw it, but the second time around, it just clicked. And of course, like most B-horror movies, the ending sets it up in a to-be-continued style, where you almost expect it in big block letters "TO BE CONTINUED??".  There were just too many of these types of scenes in the movie to not pick up that this film is not meant to be taken so seriously.

Some IMDB poster wrote a very insightful article about Elliot and Alma's childlike behavior in the movie.  And I thought that was really fascinating.  And watching the second time around, I really picked up on that.  So if it was one you, nice going.  :)

Another thing I love about Night's movies as of late is how he views human nature.  And a lot of the ways people respond in "The Happening" to the event (boarding themselvs inside, looking out for themselves, etc.) really sort of coincides with the way I view human nature.  And when I see these selfish acts that people engage in, I can't help but find it fascinating how much I agree with how Night portrays them.

I blame myself once again for misinterpreting this great movie.  I think, like most critics, I failed to aknowledge Night's creativity and flexibility.  I was looking for another Signs, or Unbreakable, and that is unfair to the movie.  I have made this mistake three times now ("The Village", "Lady in the Water", and now "The Happening").  And while I always feel odd walking out of these movies, I loved them when I sat down and thought about them.  Like "The Man Who Heard Voices" said (about Unbreakable): "It lost the sip test, but won the take-home test". 

If I had to put his movies in order of favorite --> least favorite, I would have to put them as follows (though I like them all):

Unbreakable
Signs
The Happening
Lady in the Water
The Village
6th Sense


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Re: first impressions...
« Reply #72 on: June 15, 2008, 12:39:20 AM »
^^ Nice...second review.

Me planning to watch it again today or next weekend.

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« Reply #73 on: June 15, 2008, 01:12:55 AM »
Hey everyone,  I thought about making another thread called "2nd Impressions", but decided to just put it here with everyone's else reviews.

I saw The Happening for the 2nd time this morning.  I went Friday, but being the guy my friend's know as "the M Night Fan", a lot of people ask me to go see it with me.  And, I can never say no.

The 2nd time around, this movie really, REALLY grew on me.  It's still not my favorite Night film (Unbreakable), it definitely jumped up the totem pole.  I sat around all day, wondering why my opinion changed (I always try to analyze my own thinking, metacognition, if you will) and I think I pinpointed why...

I believe that I took this film wayyy too seriously when I first saw it.  I went in there, looking for an ultra terrifying, gory film with some DEEP undertones.  I completely missed that this was supposed to be a fun homage to B-movies, even though they said that's what it is.  This became more evident when I found myself, and my theatre, laughing at moments in the film that were genuinely funny.  This was definitely one of Night's more humorous movies, and while it makes for an awkward combo (terror and hilarity), this film really is just a fun ride.  And I was just too wound up the first time seeing it to realize.

To regain perspective, I thought about what I consider a B-movie.  and i thought about those old 50's movies where, at the end when the monster is killed, some character gives a monologue about man's need to change his ways.  And I found that in one of the final scenes, with the TV anchors talking about the happening. It was a scene I loathed when I first saw it, but the second time around, it just clicked. And of course, like most B-horror movies, the ending sets it up in a to-be-continued style, where you almost expect it in big block letters "TO BE CONTINUED??".  There were just too many of these types of scenes in the movie to not pick up that this film is not meant to be taken so seriously.

Some IMDB poster wrote a very insightful article about Elliot and Alma's childlike behavior in the movie.  And I thought that was really fascinating.  And watching the second time around, I really picked up on that.  So if it was one you, nice going.  :)

Another thing I love about Night's movies as of late is how he views human nature.  And a lot of the ways people respond in "The Happening" to the event (boarding themselvs inside, looking out for themselves, etc.) really sort of coincides with the way I view human nature.  And when I see these selfish acts that people engage in, I can't help but find it fascinating how much I agree with how Night portrays them.

I blame myself once again for misinterpreting this great movie.  I think, like most critics, I failed to aknowledge Night's creativity and flexibility.  I was looking for another Signs, or Unbreakable, and that is unfair to the movie.  I have made this mistake three times now ("The Village", "Lady in the Water", and now "The Happening").  And while I always feel odd walking out of these movies, I loved them when I sat down and thought about them.  Like "The Man Who Heard Voices" said (about Unbreakable): "It lost the sip test, but won the take-home test". 

If I had to put his movies in order of favorite --> least favorite, I would have to put them as follows (though I like them all):

Unbreakable
Signs
The Happening
Lady in the Water
The Village
6th Sense


I think you have some good points goin' on. While I will not watch the movie in theaters again, I will buy it on DVD--It's a Night movie, so I must, lol.

Here's my order:

The Sixth Sense
Signs
Unbreakable
The Village
The Happening
Lady in the Water (Yeah, I still think The Happening was better than Lady in the Water)

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Re: first impressions...
« Reply #74 on: June 15, 2008, 01:39:29 AM »
While I think the whole "50's B-movie" is a genuine way to look at the film, and a genuine approach that Night took when writing and directing, I really don't think that it can be used as an 'excuse' for the bad qualities of the film.  I'm not picking on anyone here, because a lot of people have presented the whole "B-movie" point and I can totally see why.
I certainly think thats an element, but I also think Night was trying to create something scary and though provoking, in which case he pretty much failed.  Why else would he keep saying "This is my scariest movie, people were visibly shaken when they saw the movie" in all of the pre-release interviews?  If this was meant to purely be a silly/fun/slightly shocking "B-movie" I feel he would have talked about that more.  I know he mentioned it several times, but never really in the 'nudge-nudge wink-wink' manner that some people seem to suggest the film represents.

In other words, I think it's an element of the film.  However, I also think Night originally just wanted to pay homage to those films, rather than create one himself, but closer to release maybe he changed his mind and started saying things like "its just a fun b-movie".  Just a thought.  Surely he wouldn't set out to make a film with poor acting and a plot which doesn't movie very far?

Again, I'm not attacking anyone, just stating my thoughts.  Like I've said before (and so have many of you guys) I'll still be buying the DVD to add to the collection.