Wags, I totally agree with you and all of your points! This is an amazing movie, I mean truly magnificent! It is a crying shame that this movie is oddly getting negative reviews and not making a lot of money. Sad thing is that I can see something like Miami Vice getting just the opposite reaction, which would be a real travesty. I have lost all faith in critics and the movie going audience of our generation. I know I keep on saying that, but it's how I feel. [/quote] yhea the movie was great
i didnt want to look any where else but forward ,i was glued to this movie.
the movie wont make much money but wait till it hits dvd
that where people will give it a chance and rent it or buy it ,
most movies make theyre real money on dvd sales.
either way ill be patiently waiting for it to hit my dvd collection.
but it is sad that a movie like snakes on a plane is getting decent reviews ,its incredible.
also wag good write up

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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2006, 06:15:35 PM »
QUOTE (valos1479 @ Jul 25 2006, 10:10 AM) | QUOTE (Dr Malcom Crowe @ Jul 24 2006, 06:24 PM) | Wags, I totally agree with you and all of your points! This is an amazing movie, I mean truly magnificent! It is a crying shame that this movie is oddly getting negative reviews and not making a lot of money. Sad thing is that I can see something like Miami Vice getting just the opposite reaction, which would be a real travesty. I have lost all faith in critics and the movie going audience of our generation. I know I keep on saying that, but it's how I feel. [/quote] yhea the movie was great
i didnt want to look any where else but forward ,i was glued to this movie.
the movie wont make much money but wait till it hits dvd
that where people will give it a chance and rent it or buy it ,
most movies make theyre real money on dvd sales.
either way ill be patiently waiting for it to hit my dvd collection.
but it is sad that a movie like snakes on a plane is getting decent reviews ,its incredible.
also wag good write up [/quote] yeah , your right on dvd it will make more money
i just worry that if it doesnt do good, u know warners is not going to want to do any other movies with him, just like disney, turning their back on Night after 6 years and 4 movies

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« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2006, 07:32:40 PM »
I'm also mostly worried that he won't have the freedom to do what he wants if this movie fails at the box office, which it seems as though it is. But technically, Disney didn't their back on him right? I read that they said "here's 60 million, make the movie you want" but they didn't like the idea and he felt he couldn't work under those conditions. Is that incorrect?

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« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2006, 12:11:52 PM »
QUOTE (Wags @ Jul 24 2006, 06:15 PM) | And of course, when they discover Reggie is the guardian, it shows that no matter how odd people think you are, or how worthless you may seem, everyone has a purpose.
I loved this film. And I get chills everytime, right from when Reggie is revealed to be the guardian, to when the Great Eatlon takes story away, and the choir chimes in, and we see everyone gazing in awe at it. Man, what A great movie. [/quote] That was my favorite part of the movie. i like how you mention that no matter how useless someone seems, they may have a great purpose in the future, or somehow indirectly influence someone for the better, etc...
i think the reason why the healer doesnt stutter around the lady is because being around the lady, the fear is removed, which causes the stuttering. i assume he started stuttering after the fact that his wife and children were murdered. because of the fear, he leads the maintenance man lifestyle, a person who is afraid of relationships, fear that people will know the truth about him and his family, etc...when the lady comes and does her thing, she saves him by "pulling" him out of his self punishment, hence saving his life.
thats a beutiful thing when a person overcomes that fear of living.

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« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2006, 08:21:18 PM »
when the lady comes and does her thing, she saves him by "pulling" him out of his self punishment, hence saving his life.
She also saves him in that he again becomes a doctor in a way, as being the healer. It seems like that's why he fights trying to be the healer, because he is too afraid to go back to his old life, old life of being a doctor. I imagine him even going back and being a doctor again after Story leaves. Not only that, but I just imagine Cleveland coming home to his murdered family and holding his wife and kids in exactly the same way he holds story, and that's all just too close to home for him.

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« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2006, 02:33:39 PM »
I went to the cinema not expecting this movie to be a " scary or a haunted " movie..but as the reviews said..it was more of a fantasy type of movie..
can some one please tell me about the story that was told at the beginning of the movie ..i went in late and just saw half of it..the story had something to do about " the sea people" and humans..
1.what did that story have in connection with the nymph foretelling Night's future?
2. what was the importance of the film critic's character? was he just there to mislead us?
3.what was the little kid doing reading those cereal covers?
although i liked the movie because of the story ..i felt that the characters werent natural enough..there was something lacking.....the movie doesnt convey the story so convincingly...what i like about his movies are that it is unique..these are stories no one has ever thoguht abt ..its original stuff...
is he the successor to the great stephen king??
i wish he had stretched the movie a little bit more..it was only 1.15 !

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« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2006, 05:04:38 PM »
The story at the beginning basically says that at one point in time, we had a relationship with the "sea people". The see nymphs spoke to us and inspired humans to do things that would help the world. But humans eventually stop paying attention to them and become more greedy and more interested in possesing the world. War ensues between humans and so on. We lose our connection with these "Sea people". Then the sea people started sending the narfs to where humans reside to try and inspire us again.
The critic doesn't just mislead us, he misleads the people in the movies as well. And it's not that he only mislead everyone, it's the manner in which he misleads us all. The movie critic is thematically relevant as he basically is the opposite of Cleveland in that he doesn't like to "learn" things. He is close-minded. He also represents the idea that things aren't always as they seem, and one should not presume to know anothers intentions.
The kid was the symbolist. They talk about it for about a minute just before the show him reading the boxes. They talk about it quire abit in other parts of the movie as well. He was able to use the cereal boxes as a tool to decipher what needed to be done by everyone, the same way his dad was trying to do with the crossword puzzles.

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« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2006, 05:33:28 AM »
Hi thanks for the reply....at the end of the day the viewers were left to interpret the moral of the story..but they were just waiting for the final shock or "twist" which never came...
is it true that the nymph had come just to foretell Nights (the writer's future)..if it is so..its a bit unconvincing..
critics are being too harsh on their reviews..they just dont like any non conformity...they are all pondering over manoj's future..but i hope he never stops making films

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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2006, 01:35:16 PM »
No. Story's purpose is to inspire M Nights character. She came to inspire him to continue writing, as his book will become an important factor in future events. That's her only purpose as far as the fairytale goes. Telling him his future didn't effect anything. Technically, the movie would have been over right after Story and Vick(Nights character) saw each other, since that is all that has to occur for the inspiration to happen. The scene where Story tells Vick his future wouldn't have even happened. But the fact that she is a madame Narf is the reason she doesn't go home that night, because the scrunt is willing to break the rules to kill a madame Narf.

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