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Title: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 22, 2008, 06:40:55 PM
I just read on IMDB that Heath Ledger died, they think of a drug overdose.  I think that is sad, it's too bad because he was such a good actor.  Didn't know if anybody else heard about this.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on January 22, 2008, 08:20:05 PM
I couldnt believe it when I heard about it!  Supposedly they found him in bed with sleeping pills spread about.  Dont know if he overdosed or what, but hopefully he didnt.  I sure hope life wasnt that depressing that he took his own life.  I am sure its very hard for some people not to overdose or take their own life, but it sure didnt seem like things were that bad for him.

Pray for his family, friends and loved ones.  Its such a sad time, esp. with a big movie coming out this year for him.  I dont know how people are going to go to the Batman film without thinking about him dying.  I am sure this will add hype to the film.  He was a really good actor in my eyes, hopefully they give him some kind of dedication on the credits.  A moment of silence would be nice before the film, but I highly doubt it.

Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Rulm on January 22, 2008, 08:46:30 PM
Oh, my god! He was such a great actor! May he rest in peace. I will pray for his family. This is so hard to believe, but I looked it up, and it's true. :'(
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Specter on January 23, 2008, 12:22:24 AM
I was in shock when I heard about it.  He and his family are in my prayers for sure.  I heard about it only a couple of hours after his body was discovered.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Orandhite on January 23, 2008, 04:38:36 AM
This is really sad, especially so as his two year old daughter is now fatherless.

It is also a tragic loss for the film business considering how he was going from strength to strength with his performances.  His portrayal of the Joker in The Dark Knight is now probably going to be even more unnerving because of his death.

There were rumours running around that the story was just another one of the PR stunts by WhySoSerious and other people have been saying that he "got what he deserved" because he had played a gay role.  These rumours and sentiments are terrible.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 23, 2008, 09:32:34 AM
Yea, that's too bad, people need to learn to respect the dead.  He will be in my prayers as well, him and his family and friends.  He was an excellent actor, it was stunning when I found out about it, also just a few hours after it happened.  I hope he didn't overdoes of pills, that's so sad that he would think life is that bad to kill himself.  We should get more news after the autopsy.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on January 23, 2008, 07:19:23 PM
What?!  People actually said "He got what he deserved" for playing that role!?  Those people need to get a life!  What a bunch of jerks!  If you are against that, fine, but dont be an idiot and call people out like that! 

Do you know where you heard that from Orandhite?
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Orandhite on January 24, 2008, 04:19:58 AM
I heard it from a friend on another board.  He lives in Manhattan and he's been following the story quite closely as he's been really looking forward to watching Heath's performance as the Joker.  He is gay and is very in touch with any related news stories (he is actively trying to educate people, change their attitudes and help those that are in situations because of their sexual orientation) so is more likely to hear or find about about comments like this.

He also posted that no illegal drugs were found in the apartment, the autopsy was inconclusive, but the investigation was testing a rolled up $20 bill to see whether there was any drug residue on it.

EDIT: it turns out there were no drugs found on the $20 bill (plus other information):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22788914/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22788914/)
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 24, 2008, 09:52:07 AM
Yea, I had heard they think it was an accidental overdose on something.  It's too bad, especially since he has kids.  Yes, if you disagree with something, okay, but don't bash a man for his beliefs, especially when they are dead.  That's called one thing, dishonoring the dead.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on January 24, 2008, 10:35:21 AM
Wow.  I am still taken back and in shock about this whole thing.  I keep wanting to believe this is a joke somebody is playing, like he is actually going to be seen walking down the street somewhere and the news is going to report it.  Unbeleviable.

I thought the MSN you posted was interesting.  I was very surprised to hear an Olsen twin mentioned.  Never knew they were friends, wonder how that came to be?

I can relate to the non-sleeping disorder he was having.  I like to write and when I write creativly, or study for that matter, late at night, say around 11 or 12, falling asleep is so difficult.  I just lay in my bed, in the dark, not being able to fall asleep.  The body is exhausted, but the mind is still racing about with ideas I have.  When I try to push those ideas out and close my eyes, my brain switches to another subject.  Odd ones too, I will start thinking about really random things when I was younger.  What I did, where I used to hang out, etc.  My brain just keeps firing off in all directions.  I "eventually" fall asleep, but cant really remember when.

With such a tight and long scheadule on shooting days, and also with such a complex character, thorwing yourself into your that role, completely leaving nothing behind, and completely becoming that person, I can really see him having struggles.

Its going to be hard watching him play the Joker, but I can not wait to see his performance, it looks spectacular.  He looks so detailed in character its scary.

I really hope that the paparazzi leaves his family alone and stays out of the lives of his friends.  Heath Leger seemed to be a good man.  I will miss him.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 24, 2008, 08:35:32 PM
I heard about this when MSNBC first broke the news, and I couldn't believe it. It is so sad to see a young life so full of talent and potential end.

My thoughts and prayers to the family and friends.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on January 24, 2008, 08:56:26 PM
I heard that he used to be in rehab, but didnt stay there, in and out.  Does anyone know if this true? 
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 24, 2008, 09:07:09 PM
I think he entered rehab to research a role. That what I heard. I think that was according to a director of the movie the role was for.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 25, 2008, 06:41:59 PM
Yes, it's so sad.  He was such a good actor.  I sometimes have the problem of falling asleep.  I listen to music each night.  That usually helps.  With Heath Ledger doing research in a rehab facility, that would make sense.  Some actors get really into their roles, he sounds like one of them.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on January 26, 2008, 10:29:05 AM
They havnt the tests back, but I heard something about he had prescription drugs from France, over the counter.  He possibly accidently mixed them, or to much of, both ones from US and europe.  In other words overdose.  Now whether he did it on purpose, who knows?  I sure hope not, but I think it might be one of things no one will ever find out.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 27, 2008, 03:39:11 PM
I don't think he would, not from the little I know about him.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Rulm on January 28, 2008, 02:18:45 AM
There is a rumor going around saying that Heath got so into character for the Joker in the next Batman film, that it took a truly physical toll on him. Some are saying it kinda' traumatized him. Yeah, it's skepticism, but I think it may be possible.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 28, 2008, 10:58:02 AM
I can see how that's possible, some people get so into their roles that it does mess with them.  That's what makes him a good actor.  They think that he accidently overdosed on some over the counter drugs, which is too bad, an accident that just ruined a promising young man and career.  I feel horrible for his little girl, it's really sad.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 28, 2008, 07:10:55 PM
Christopher Nolan's (director of The Dark Knight) article in Newsweek about Heath Ledger:

One night, as I'm standing on LaSalle Street in Chicago, trying to line up a shot for "The Dark Knight," a production assistant skateboards into my line of sight. Silently, I curse the moment that Heath first skated onto our set in full character makeup. I'd fretted about the reaction of Batman fans to a skateboarding Joker, but the actual result was a proliferation of skateboards among the younger crew members. If you'd asked those kids why they had chosen to bring their boards to work, they would have answered honestly that they didn't know. That's real charisma?as invisible and natural as gravity. That's what Heath had.

Heath was bursting with creativity. It was in his every gesture. He once told me that he liked to wait between jobs until he was creatively hungry. Until he needed it again. He brought that attitude to our set every day. There aren't many actors who can make you feel ashamed of how often you complain about doing the best job in the world. Heath was one of them.

One time he and another actor were shooting a complex scene. We had two days to shoot it, and at the end of the first day, they'd really found something and Heath was worried that he might not have it if we stopped. He wanted to carry on and finish. It's tough to ask the crew to work late when we all know there's plenty of time to finish the next day. But everyone seemed to understand that Heath had something special and that we had to capture it before it disappeared. Months later, I learned that as Heath left the set that night, he quietly thanked each crew member for working late. Quietly. Not trying to make a point, just grateful for the chance to create that they'd given him.

Those nights on the streets of Chicago were filled with stunts. These can be boring times for an actor, but Heath was fascinated, eagerly accepting our invitation to ride in the camera car as we chased vehicles through movie traffic?not just for the thrill ride, but to be a part of it. Of everything. He'd brought his laptop along in the car, and we had a high-speed screening of two of his works-in-progress: short films he'd made that were exciting and haunting. Their exuberance made me feel jaded and leaden. I've never felt as old as I did watching Heath explore his talents. That night I made him an offer?knowing he wouldn't take me up on it?that he should feel free to come by the set when he had a night off so he could see what we were up to.

When you get into the edit suite after shooting a movie, you feel a responsibility to an actor who has trusted you, and Heath gave us everything. As we started my cut, I would wonder about each take we chose, each trim we made. I would visualize the screening where we'd have to show him the finished film?sitting three or four rows behind him, watching the movements of his head for clues to what he was thinking about what we'd done with all that he'd given us. Now that screening will never be real. I see him every day in my edit suite. I study his face, his voice. And I miss him terribly.

Back on LaSalle Street, I turn to my assistant director and I tell him to clear the skateboarding kid out of my line of sight when I realize?it's Heath, woolly hat pulled low over his eyes, here on his night off to take me up on my offer. I can't help but smile.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on January 28, 2008, 08:11:03 PM
Wow, thanks for posting that article, it really touched me.  I am still sad for him.  I was watching Batman Begins yesterday on television and was enjoying it because I hadnt seen it in awhile, then the end came on where Batman is given the joker card.  I realized in an instant that Heath was gone.  Bummer.   :(  Its very nice to know that he thanked the whole crew.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 30, 2008, 10:03:51 AM
That's a very good and touching article.  Christopher Nolan has class to tell that story.  That was nice that he thanked the crew for working late.  I hope The Dark Knight is the second most succesful film next year.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on January 30, 2008, 09:11:08 PM
HAHA!  I just had to laugh that you said I hope The Dark Knight comes in a good second place this year.  Lol.  I agree.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 30, 2008, 10:08:50 PM
I will be the party pooper and say that I doubt that either movie will take the #1 or #2 spot.

I would however agree that I hope that it does happen.  ;)
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 31, 2008, 09:49:34 AM
Yea, I have to agree with you Dr Malcom Crowe.  Oh, there is an interview of Heath Ledger on yahoo movies, The Dark Knight, they are talking about him playing the Joker, thought some of you might be interested.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Lifeordeath1 on January 31, 2008, 11:01:25 AM
I will be the party pooper and say that I doubt that either movie will take the #1 or #2 spot.

I would however agree that I hope that it does happen.  ;)

What movies do you think will take the 2 top spot Maclome?
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 31, 2008, 11:20:22 AM
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince


Also Chronicles of Narnia could do very well. I think Dark Knight will do much better than Batman Begins did, but still, that means it will have to do about $100 million more than Begins to do what franchises like Narnia and Potter have done in the past ($300 million).
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Orandhite on January 31, 2008, 11:27:45 AM
I think TDK might well be a surprise earner this year.  There has been major viral marketing done for it, and the passing of Heath Ledger and the TYPE of role he is playing in his last movie will probably push up the number of people that will go to see it.

Although going up against those two movies is going to be tough!
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 31, 2008, 11:31:55 AM
I agree, TDK could very well surprise us with the amount it earns. There are a lot of things going for it, and a lot of positive buzz.

I just think movies like Indiana Jones and Harry Potter have a larger potential audience.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Orandhite on January 31, 2008, 11:47:09 AM
Definitely.  Indy has got to be the biggest movie of the year.  There are so many people that grew up with him, their parents, and now their kids too!
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Rulm on January 31, 2008, 02:16:32 PM
I seriously think The Dark Knight will surprise many when it releases. It may become #1. I wouldn't doubt it. Especially with all the publicity it's been getting. Oh, and the reason it WILL top Batman Begins is because of the Joker. People will crowd the theater like Legos in a box.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 31, 2008, 05:59:20 PM
Yea, I think The Dark Knight has a lot going for it, but competing against Indiana Jones, Harry Potter, and Prince Caspian, is going to make it very hard for it to top out.  Still, I also think The Dark Knight might win a few awards.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 02, 2008, 06:34:37 PM
Begins was only nominated for Best Achievement in Cinematography, something which almost seems to be common for a movie shot by Wally Pfister.

I imagine TDK will get nominations for Cinematography again, as well as Costume Design, Art Direction, and Makeup. Once we see the movie I think then we can judge whether or not it will get any "above the line" nominations.
Title: Re: Heath Ledger-Dead
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 04, 2008, 10:14:05 AM
Yea, I agree with you.  Those are the only awards I can think of off the top of my head that The Dark Knight might be nominated for.