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Title: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 23, 2009, 01:29:38 PM
So the Academy Awards announced their nominations, and I was truly stunned, I thought this might be the year they would shy away from political, and artsy films, trying to show the public how their sense of art and good films is messed up, and actually make good nominations.  Unfortunately, I was wrong.  The Dark Knight was well and truly snubbed, yes it got a bunch of technical nominations, which it definately deserved, but only one major nomination.  It makes me wonder whether Heath Ledger would have even gotton that if he hadn't died.  Some of the other nominations-how in the world can Kate Winslet win a best supporting actress at the golden globes for her performance in The Reader, but then also get nominated for that same performance, but this time as a leading actress in the Academy Awards, that makes no sense.  And the Academy Awards wonders why it's viewership is down, cause they don't even recognize the second highest grossing film of all time in the United States, they for some reason have to prove that movies that nobody watches (the one exception is Slumdog Millionare) are somehow better than the popular ones.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on January 23, 2009, 10:05:11 PM
So the Academy Awards announced their nominations, and I was truly stunned, I thought this might be the year they would shy away from political, and artsy films, trying to show the public how their sense of art and good films is messed up, and actually make good nominations.  Unfortunately, I was wrong.  The Dark Knight was well and truly snubbed, yes it got a bunch of technical nominations, which it definately deserved, but only one major nomination.  It makes me wonder whether Heath Ledger would have even gotton that if he hadn't died.  Some of the other nominations-how in the world can Kate Winslet win a best supporting actress at the golden globes for her performance in The Reader, but then also get nominated for that same performance, but this time as a leading actress in the Academy Awards, that makes no sense.  And the Academy Awards wonders why it's viewership is down, cause they don't even recognize the second highest grossing film of all time in the United States, they for some reason have to prove that movies that nobody watches (the one exception is Slumdog Millionare) are somehow better than the popular ones.

Every year I wait for the Academy Award nominations. To tell you the truth in the past 2 years I don't find Academy awards interesting anymore. When "No Country For Old Men" won the best movie and "Daniel Day Lewis" won for his performance in "There Will Be Blood" - that satisfied me big time. I was eagerly waiting for the Academy's announcement of its respected nominations this year.

I respect acting and the actors, but this year I don't think "Mickey Rourke" deserves to be nominated for Academy Award. I mean where was he all these years. He came with an movie and then gets to win an Golden Globe Award for his role. I think Golden Globe should have been presented to "Brad Pitt". Lets forget about the "GGA". Back to the Oscars, look how they nominated Sean Penn again this year and forgot "CLINT EASTWOOD" for his role in Gran Torino. No disrespect to Sean Penn - one of my favorite actors, I know he did a awesome job in MILK, but come on, CLINT EASTWOOD deserves to be listed as an actor this year.

Where is "Christopher Nolan" as the best director for his awesome job in THE DARK KNIGHT, I am shocked.

I want to talk about "Heath Ledger" - Heath's performance is a performance. Have anyone of us here seen anyone working so serious and so good and dedicated in his role since "Jim Caviezel" performance in "The Passion Of The Christ". Heath did that and I was surprised and inspired. If Heath would be alive today, he still would win a GGA and nominated in the best supporting role for a Oscar and also the movie still be one of the top grossers. Heath spent day and night working hard and bring the character of joker so close and made it so personal, I don't have to explain his effort here - we all know what he did. He surpassed "Jack Nicholson's" performance of the JOKER ( no disrespect to Jack). I hope he wins the oscar, too.

Actresses - I was surprised when Kate won twice at GGA. I thought one of them at least should have been presented to "Angelina Jolie" Kate is one of my favorite actresses, I think she is awesome and have done a awesome job in both movies. Since she already recieved two GGA, I am going to support "Angelina Jolie" at Academy. I will be looking forward to it.

I don't think "Mr.Glass" that Academy looks at the "Box Office". I think Academy tries to understand that what true art is and recognizes those artists. Sometimes they don't do things the way they should be, but I don't think they care about money. The Dark Knight earned lots of money, I know it deserves an oscar and its maker as well. The reason I am saying that is because MONEY and SKILLED Directing and acting is coincidence when it comes to The Dark Knight. There are movies that are not that good, but actually earns some decent money at the box office. Last time, it was No Country For Old Men and There Will Be Blood - they were not popular at the box office. Look at both movies - how perfect they are.

Slumdog Millionaire - this movie it out of nowhere. I have not seen it yet, but I have heard that it is good. Again, looks very simple story, nothing pretty much inspiring about it. I read the script, its written purely. I was not entertained by its story. Plot. Bollywood itself can write a story like that. I have seen "Devdas" directed by Sanjay Leela Bhansali and BLACK - Academy Award deserving movies. I am going for Curious Case Of Benjamin Button - I want this movie to win. There is story and directing style that should be praised.

The Academy Awards will be fun to watch - but since we don't get to see "Clint Eastwood" for his work as an nominee is pain to watch. Personally, I have lots of respect for Clint, he is the national treasure and the corner stone of Hollywood.

Rohan





Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Namaste on January 23, 2009, 10:57:22 PM
Actually, TDK was pretty political in my opinion..and most of you already know what im talking about. And about unpopular movies being artistically better than popular ones, well..arent we all here because we think Shyamalan films are some of the best out there even though they are unpopular?
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on January 23, 2009, 11:05:55 PM
Actually, TDK was pretty political in my opinion..and most of you already know what im talking about. And about unpopular movies being artistically better than popular ones, well..arent we all here because we think Shyamalan films are some of the best out there even though they are unpopular?

I agree. Totally agree with you.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: shadowbender on January 24, 2009, 02:04:28 PM
I hate the fact that all of these amazing, big-budget movies never get an Academy Award. It ticks me off. What, was "The Dark Knight" not artsy enough? These people are ridiculous for their choices, and honestly, it's an insult to Heath Ledger's memory, that crew member who got killed on the set, Christopher Nolan, Christian Bale, and many others.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on January 24, 2009, 02:41:28 PM
I hate the fact that all of these amazing, big-budget movies never get an Academy Award. It ticks me off. What, was "The Dark Knight" not artsy enough? These people are ridiculous for their choices, and honestly, it's an insult to Heath Ledger's memory, that crew member who got killed on the set, Christopher Nolan, Christian Bale, and many others.

I feel the same way when its comes specially to THE DARK KNIGHT. I think TDK was 100 times better than SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE. I have read the Slumdog script.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Namaste on January 25, 2009, 07:06:23 AM
lol..an insult to dead people's memories..
why didnt Brandon Lee get a nomination for The Crow? I thought it was an amazing performance. BTW, i had a dream about batman this morning! it was odd, and sexy..and more odd lmao
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on January 25, 2009, 04:33:54 PM
lol..an insult to dead people's memories..
why didnt Brandon Lee get a nomination for The Crow? I thought it was an amazing performance. BTW, i had a dream about batman this morning! it was odd, and sexy..and more odd lmao

Sexy? Tell us about it.  ;D
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Namaste on January 26, 2009, 12:26:01 AM
bahHa..it was not family-friendly
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on January 26, 2009, 09:40:33 PM
bahHa..it was not family-friendly

Oh okay.... :o
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on January 29, 2009, 06:37:08 PM
I know less succesful films can be better than commercially succesful ones, but that needs to play some effect, at least in the best picture category.  I just feel like the Academy Awards feels like it can't give anything to succesful movies, they have to dictate to us what good film and art is.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on January 29, 2009, 07:05:23 PM
Although I am annoyed that the Academy didn't recognize The Dark Knight for Best Picture, I don't think they are putting bad films in its place.

Nor do I believe they are trying to dictate anything.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: shadowbender on January 31, 2009, 08:35:10 PM
It really annoys me when successful films get no awards, it really is annoying.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on February 01, 2009, 10:57:58 PM
Lets put the success away for a minute. The Dark Knight is a well made movie. Well directed. No flaws in my book. I had my freakin highlighter down when I was watching the movie and found no mistake to highlight. I am shocked they didn't nominated the movie. They better give "Benjamin" the best movie of the year award.



Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 11, 2009, 01:17:27 PM
You might get it, A Beautiful Mind won, and there are similarities between it and Benjamin Button.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on February 12, 2009, 10:58:28 AM
I was watching THE SIXTH SENSE last night. I thought that Academy Awards is a joke sometimes. How come they didn't gave any award to the movie.

Same thing with THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST. Best Actor, Director and Best Film - totally deserved it.

They can give CUBA GOODING JR an oscar -they cannot give Jim Caviezel an award for his performance in The Passion.

What did Cuba Gooding Jr did so far, after JERRY MACGUIRE? He did nothing. No roles and no performance. A big mistake.

This year all the awards are stuck with Slumdog Millionaire.

No Oscar Nomination for TDK except HEATH LEDGER, I am happy for Heath and I want him to win it, but the director and the movie deserves it big time.

I hope, I hope they give oscar to Brad Pitt for his performance. No Sean Penn or Mickie Rourke. I respect Sean Penn, but he has a oscar statue in his house already. As far as Mickie Rourke and Brad Pitt is concerned, I think Brad Pitt contributed a lot in the industry than Mr. Rourke, one movie will not make a difference. Brad Pitt deserves it.



Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 12, 2009, 12:15:59 PM
they try to award people for the individual roles, not their careers.

I would be perfectly happy if Mickey or Sean won the award. Outstanding performances by both men. Performances of a lifetime even.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 12, 2009, 02:13:17 PM
Rohan, I disagree with you, it doesn't matter how many awards a person has, if that performance is the best of the year than they deserve another award.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on February 12, 2009, 04:46:00 PM
What was wrong with Jim's performance in THE PASSION? What was wrong with M.Night's work on The Sixth Sense?

Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 12, 2009, 05:53:15 PM
Nothing. People just liked the other options better.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on February 12, 2009, 10:36:39 PM
Nothing. People just liked the other options better.

Which movie won the oscar as the best picture when The Sixth sense was also in the list that year?
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 13, 2009, 12:43:35 AM
American Beauty by Sam Mendes.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on February 13, 2009, 10:56:10 AM
American Beauty by Sam Mendes.

I have not seen American Beauty. Is it good?
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Dr Malcolm Crowe on February 13, 2009, 11:33:17 AM
I like it. I don't like it more than The Sixth Sense, but I like it.

It's a very well crafted piece.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on February 13, 2009, 09:32:31 PM
I like it. I don't like it more than The Sixth Sense, but I like it.

It's a very well crafted piece.

May be I should check it out.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: shadowbender on February 13, 2009, 09:43:35 PM
I know a movie all of you should check out. "Taken". Awesome, sweet movie. Liam Nesson's still got it! He's amazing, the action was awesome, and it was very suspenseful. If you haven't seen it already, I reccommend seeing "Taken".
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Namaste on February 14, 2009, 07:59:03 PM
I saw it a long time ago. I don't remember much about it, but since then I've heard it is a watershed movie in the UFO fan community.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: shadowbender on February 15, 2009, 12:10:06 PM
Are we talking about the same movie?
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on February 15, 2009, 02:35:38 PM
I wanted to watch 'Taken' something came up and changed my plan. My plan was to watch  Taken and Defiance. Well, since you stated it's good, I will wait for it on DVD. Liam Neeson is awesome.

I heard - Steven Spielberg is casting Liam Neeson for his biopic movie - Abraham Lincoln.

Rohan
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Namaste on February 15, 2009, 11:59:47 PM
Are we talking about the same movie?

Nope, we're not lol.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: the_sorcerer on February 17, 2009, 09:30:58 AM
ROHAN....hey man, I know you say you've read the script to Slumdog, but see the movie man! I can't even imagine how reading the script to that movie would do it ANY justice! That movie had like the best sound design I've ever heard, and the cinematography is absolutely beautiful! I really REALLY hope it wins best picture, and you should really check it out!

Also, American Beauty is one of my favorite movies of all time....treat yourself!
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 17, 2009, 02:02:38 PM
Taken looks really good, I just don't have the time to go see it right now, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on February 17, 2009, 05:02:17 PM
ROHAN....hey man, I know you say you've read the script to Slumdog, but see the movie man! I can't even imagine how reading the script to that movie would do it ANY justice! That movie had like the best sound design I've ever heard, and the cinematography is absolutely beautiful! I really REALLY hope it wins best picture, and you should really check it out!

Also, American Beauty is one of my favorite movies of all time....treat yourself!

I will watch it on DVD, it's not like I won't. I want to see why so much recognition - lol
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: the_sorcerer on February 19, 2009, 09:12:46 AM
We bootlegged the movie a couple months ago and have watched it like a hundred times, TRUST ME it's not NEARLY as good as in theaters....it's one of those movies that the theater experience makes the movie great.....like SIGNS!!!!
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on February 23, 2009, 03:29:44 PM
A good show, I was impressed. Still don't know why Slumdog got the best picture. It's okay, it happened so happened. I don't care anymore. I am happy for Heath, I mean the guy got the Academy Award.

Sean Penn won again, that's surprising. I am happy for him even though I wanted Brad Pitt to win.

Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 25, 2009, 03:04:01 PM
I wasn't really surprised by most of the choices that won.  Though Slumdog Millionaire won a few more than I expected.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on February 25, 2009, 03:54:09 PM
I wasn't really surprised by most of the choices that won.  Though Slumdog Millionaire won a few more than I expected.

I have no comment on SM winning most of the awards. I just don't know what to say. All I know is that besides SM there were other movies that were directed perfectly and performed perfectly.

Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: shadowbender on February 25, 2009, 05:44:56 PM
Jai Ho!

Taken looks really good, I just don't have the time to go see it right now, unfortunately.

And yeah, "Taken" is awesome.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on February 26, 2009, 03:44:45 PM
Rohan, I'm assuming you mean Button and Dark Knight.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on February 26, 2009, 06:03:34 PM
Rohan, I'm assuming you mean Button and Dark Knight.

Yes. Changeling, too.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on March 06, 2009, 02:21:29 PM
I haven't seen Benjamin Button yet, though when it comes out on DVD I will.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Rohan on March 06, 2009, 05:39:02 PM
I haven't seen Benjamin Button yet, though when it comes out on DVD I will.

i can't wait for the DVD.
Title: Re: Academy Awards-A Joke?
Post by: Mr_Glass.1 on March 10, 2009, 01:37:05 PM
I had a friend who saw it, he said it was okay, the graphics were good, but he just wasn't a big fan of it.